The Contact Has Begun
An Interview With Phillip Krapf
by Tim Miejan
Editor, The EDGE Newspaper
Summary: If things
go according to plan, Earth could be gearing up for
rudimentary interstellar space travel in the early 21st
century through a sharing of technology with the
Verdants. In any prior decade, Phillip Krapfís story
would have been branded science fiction. However, today
his matter-of-fact reporting of his abduction and
experience aboard an extraterrestrial craft is viewed
with more credibility.
If things go according to plan, Earth could be gearing up for
rudimentary interstellar space travel in the early 21st century
through a sharing of technology with the Verdants.
In any prior
decade, Phillip Krapfís story would have been branded science
fiction. However, today his matter-of-fact reporting of his
abduction and experience aboard an extraterrestrial craft is viewed
with more credibility. Itís the í90s and more people believe in the
possibility of extraterrestrial life than ever before. There are
those who cannot be sold on the idea.
Ironically, Mr. Krapf was one
of them. He was a newspaper man, a longtime copy editor with the Los
Angeles Times. Now retired, he lives an idyllic life in Southern
California. The only thing that really complicates his life is the
memory of three days spent with beings known as Verdants.
His book on the experience, The Contact Has Begun (1998, HayHouse),
is just over 100 pages, but the soft coverís thinness belies its
in-depth information about an incredibly advanced civilization that
comes from a planet about two and a half times the size of Earth,
located 14 million light-years away. The maximum life span of a Verdant, thanks to technology, is 20,000 Earth years.
studying Earth, to access its preparedness in entering the Intergalactic Federation of Sovereign Planets, for 1,000 years.
Other data Mr. Krapf relates is just as startling, including the
number of unidentified humans who have been in contact with the
Verdants and have been granted ambassador status to prepare our
civilization for formal entrance into the galactic family. If things
go according to plan, Earth could be gearing up for rudimentary
interstellar space travel in the early 21st century through a
sharing of technology with the Verdants.
What was most mind-blowing to Mr. Krapf during his stay aboard the
space craft was the Verdant understanding of God:
"You believe in God?" I stammered.
"In an immortal soul?"
[Ginaís] face became a canvas of
expression. I had broken through. It took a practiced eye, and I
would not have seen it only hours before, but I could now read the
very, very subtle musculature changes that revealed her emotions.
"Believe?" she asked in wonder.
"We donít just believe. We know. Our
scientists proved the existence of the soul millennia ago. Our ships
have discovered the precise location of Heaven in the universe. We
have been there."
In an interview with The EDGE, Mr. Krapf begins by
relating an encounter he had with a former colleague at the Los
Angeles Times, a person who is believed to be one of the ambassadors
with whom greater information about the Human-Verdant relationship
has been shared.
Phillip Krapf: I was home one
night and the phone rang. It was a person at the Los Angeles
Times who I
thought also had been a contact. It was late at
night and this person, and I canít say if it was a man or woman,
but I shall call it a him, wanted to talk with me, but wanted to
meet somewhere. I wondered if his cover was blown or if he had
to get a message to me. So I met with him.
Tim: Was he aware you had written the book?
Krapf: Yes. He asked me, "So youíve recently met some new
friends?" And I knew what he was talking about. I thought he
wanted to deliver an important message, but what it amounted to
is that he wanted to talk to someone whom he could confide in.
He could confide in me because we basically had the same
experience. So we met for lunch, but he had nothing pressing to
mention. He just brought me up to speed on what was going on in
his life and asked about me. He wanted to unload a little bit,
because he couldnít talk with anyone else about this.
Tim: Outside of writing your book, do you have the need to talk
with other people about your experience?
Krapf: I have basically talked about it by going public. Iím the
only one who has gone public so far. The others have not gone
public and wonít for some time. My assignment was to go public.
Iíve said basically what I have to say in the book. I donít have
any real need to unload on anybody. Newspaper men, by nature,
are skeptics. I find that my newspaper friends are not too
interested in hearing about this. I donít blame them, because I
was a skeptic also. I would have done the same thing. The local
newspaper here did a little story about my book signing and they
had a little fun with me in an editorial. At first I was a
little bit chagrined, but I realized I wouldíve done the same
thing if I were in their place. I donít have a real need to bare
my soul because everything that happened to me was put down in
the book. I should have actually been shocked beyond
imagination, or as I put in the book, pushed towards the brink
of insanity by such an experience.
Tim: So you are more open to the idea of extraterrestrials than
Krapf: Yes, I am. I was a skeptic and didnít believe. Quite
frankly, I had never given it much thought. I have never been
interested in the new age genre. So after the incident, I
thought I should go out and do my homework. I went to new age
sections in bookstores and wasnít aware of the movement and how
much has been written about it. When I saw all the material that
was available, I knew it would take years and years to read it
all. And I didnít have any way of knowing what material was of
value and what was irrelevant. I didnít want to waste a lot of
time reading someoneís conjecture and speculation. People I talk
to who are in the new age genre have been in it for years and
years, and quite frankly, they lose me on some of it. I just
canít follow them. I think itís too late to get an education on
it. Thereís not enough time.
Tim: Do you have a sense of why you were selected?
Krapf: I asked them that question. In fact, I have a chapter
called "Why Pick on Me?" It came down to the need for someone to
write a "white paper," as they called it. And the person from
the Los Angeles Times had already been recruited and my name
came up along with many others. They were looking for a person
who could write a decent sentence, not someone who was the best
writer in the world but someone who could compile a journal. I
also am retired and I had the time to put in on it. It might
have just been the luck of the draw. There were many qualified
candidates. It just came down to a selection process, and with
the personal referral from the person at the Times, they just
picked someone they felt could do the job.
Tim: Are there any experiences you had while you were aboard
that you keep thinking about? Wasnít it about a year ago that it
Krapf: Itíll be a year in June, June 11 to 13. I was very
impressed in the observation dome of the wonder of it all. I
think about all the people, or beings, and civilizations out
there where life is going on. Itís just fascinating to think
about. Weíre not alone. There are other beings going on with
their everyday lives. How fascinating it would be to go among
them and see what their lives are like. I think about that. Itís
probably unimaginable to really get a good handle on the reality
of it. You just have to be there. Of course, the fact that they
have a spiritual base really did surprise me. I was an agnostic
before the experience. I havenít had any spiritual revelations
or born again experiences, but I accept their scientific data in
the area of religion, whereas most people I am aware of believe
on the basis of faith rather than solid evidence. Itís not a
matter of faith for me, itís a matter of being informed and
knowledgeable about what they have discovered. All those
involved are drawing up projected plans of how they are going to
carry out their assignments.
Tim: Would you say that you now believe in the immortality of
Krapf: I believe them. They said they have proven it.
Tim: A long time ago.
Krapf: Yes. It would be presumptuous of me to doubt them or to
scoff at that, because they are so advanced. Iím more open to
the idea based on what they have discovered than on what some
proselytizer who comes to the door tells me. When he tells me
the world is 5,000 years old, there is evidence out there, just
by looking at the Grand Canyon, that the world is certainly more
than 5,000 years old. So people who come to my door are sincere,
but they are simply abiding by some religious training and donít
have any evidence. Iím more impressed by evidence. I donít have
evidence either, but I take the Verdantsí word that they have
the evidence. I think about those things. I havenít become a
religious zealot or anything. I donít try to spread the message.
Itís just something that has given me some comfort. That
surprised me, quite frankly.
Tim: The experience must have shaken you in terms of upsetting
your belief system about how the universe works?
Krapf: I donít know if the word "shaken" is the right word. I
should have actually been shocked beyond imagination, or as I
put in the book, pushed towards the brink of insanity by such an
experience. But thereís something else going on that neutralizes
those natural reactions that you would expect. I was surprised
by my own equanimity. Why am I not reacting hysterically? Iíve
accepted it much more readily than you would think is normal.
But I think they have some control over that. Itís like when I
went in for minor surgery, for kidney stones or something. I
donít like hospitals and I was really nervous and anxious, and
my stomach was upset before I went to the hospital. I got there
and they started leading me into the operating room, and I
thought, "You know, this is just minor surgery. Itís not going
to bother me. This is just routine stuff." I was completely at
ease. And then I realized they had me on an I.V. of valium. I
was in a natural state of calm in a situation in which you
shouldnít be calm. So it was that sort of thing with the
Tim: When and how did you tell your wife about your experience?
Krapf: I kind of worked into it over a couple of days rather
than blurting it out. Weíre very close and sheís very trusting
of me and Iím trusting of her. When I finally explained what
happened, it still came as a surprise. But it was not a sudden
one, like getting a phone call telling you that your best friend
is dead. So I told her what had happened and she just sort of
accepted it and said, "Well, OK." She doesnít talk about it
much. I think itís because she lives in a comfortable world and
doesnít see any place in that for space alien contact. I think
that if she had her preference, sheíd have life go on as it is,
without having to deal with the subject.
Tim: Do you have a sense of the time frame when we will actually
have a meeting with the Verdants?
Krapf: I was unsure of that. I came away with a very vague idea,
but I do cover that in the addendum. I talked to the person from
The Times about that, and he had an idea of a very definite time
Tim: And his status in contact with the Verdants was ambassador?
Tim: So he was given more information related to our eventual
contact than you were.
Krapf: Absolutely. He has a much greater role to play in the
news coverage of the event. He indicated that around 2002 things
would begin happening. In the meantime, all those involved are
drawing up projected plans of how they are going to carry out
their assignments. Those plans have to be reviewed and the
groundwork firmly laid before anything really starts happening.
Then around 2002 and for the rest of the decade things will
begin, and then around the end of that decade, presumably if
everything goes according to plan, we will join the
Intergalactic Federation of Sovereign Planets. So itís still a
few years, but things are humming, from what I understand. He
said also that the Verdants are in contact with the various
ambassadors. He asked me if I had been in contact with them, and
I have not. I suppose thatís because my job is done. Their job
is still ongoing.
Tim: Do you have a prevailing message that you want to tell
Krapf: Keep the faith. In this age of people going onto school
grounds and shooting up kids with assault rifles, the news is
filled with things that get you down after a while. I guess my
message is not to let things get you down. There is hope.
Tim: If events occur as the Verdants suggest, it would be one of
the most transforming events in the history of the Earth.
Krapf: I donít think anything would ever compare with it, quite
frankly. Itís going to change the destiny of mankind.
Tim: Do you have a sense of anticipation about this?
Krapf: I do, but Iím not sitting here chewing my nails every
day. Iím just laid back and take the attitude of what will be,
will be. When it comes, it comes. Iím not in a lather or dither
or anything. I had the impression that things were going to
start happening right away, but the person with The Times put me
straight about that: No, not yet. Itíll be a while.
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An Interview with Phillip Krapf
Richard Boylan, Phd
Phillip Krapf is a no-nonsense, middle-aged, hard-bitten, big
city daily newspaper editor who does not mince words.
self-described previous agnostic and inveterate skeptic, Krapf
kept his audience focused during the six hours of his workshop
on what he learned from his second visit aboard a Star Nation
Krapf synopsized what he had presented in his first book,
Contact Has Begun and his latest book, The Challenge of Contact.
Both bear careful reading, and I invite the reader to peruse
both books. I will only summarize here a few points not covered
explicitly in either book. Krapf clarified that in his first
book, the chapter where he wrote about being taken to a physical
heaven should be understood as an allegory, and not a literal
journey to heaven. He felt that the Verdant space people showed
him "heaven" because he was an atheist, and they wanted to show
him a wider reality.
In response to my question for more physical details about
Verdants, he described them as 5í2" to 5'5" tall, with no hair,
a negligible nose with essentially two nostril holes, and a thin
almost lipless mouth. He said that their eyes were dark, and of
slit-eyed construction with almond shape. His prime contact, a
Verdant female, was slightly built with very petite breasts.
ears are proportional to the head, as are the eyes. The Verdants
are a very homogenous-looking race, and it took Phil some time
and practice to distinguish his main contacts from the others.
Thus, the beings look somewhat like, but are distinguished from
the persons from the Zeta Reticuli system.
Krapf described a major meeting aboard the
spacecraft in position behind the Moon. This spacecraft was lenticular in shape. At this meeting were 12 of the human
Ambassadors (selected future prominent witness and spokespersons
for Verdant contact), as well as Krapf, who sees himself in the
subordinate Deputy Envoy position.
The discussion included how
well humans in general were prepared for formal acknowledgment
of ET contact/presence. The Ambassadors also discussed how well
Krapf was doing his assignment of getting the word out of Space
Krapf also related the Star Wars weapon systems are designed to
shoot at UFO spacecraft. He viewed this as an appalling
possibility. He reiterated that the Verdants have estimated that
20% of the Earthís population are holding back human advancement
and public disclosure.
These 20% are comprised of geoplutocrats
who run world policy organizations trying to preserve the
economic status quo, general sociopaths, and others not likely
to change in the face of public announcement of contact by the
Krapf related an interesting personal note: that since April
(2001) he has eaten no meat, and has limited his intake to 500
calories per day. He mostly eats fruit. He attributes this diet
to his last visit aboard the Verdant ship. He has lost 40 pounds
and appears in trim and fit condition (by the way, Krapf says
that the Verdants base all the food on a plant staple grown
I traded stories with him about how encounters
with Star People have caused me unconsciously to give up eating
meat, going vegetarian, avoiding as much as possible chocolate,
caffeine, any drugs, free sugar, and increasing my intake of
water noticeably. Phil nodded, familiar with these strivings.
As far as a near-future timetable is concerned, Krapf had this
to say. Supposedly in 2002 some world-renown Ambassadors will
start speaking out on UFO/Star Visitor reality. There are 880 of
these world-famous celebrities who will be verifying UFO/ET
contact. Phil demurred when asked if he was going to be global
spokesperson for the Verdants when they openly manifest to the
public. He felt that one of the Ambassadors connected with the
media would be the likely main spokesperson.
I left the Workshop more convinced of
Phillip Krapfís mental
soundness and ethical integrity and honesty. He remains a modest
key witness and a widely-published "reluctant" experiencer. He
also has moved from atheism to a gentle openness to the
possibility of the divine/transcendent.
Perhaps this remarkable
inner transformation is the chief authenticator of Mr. Krapfís
detailed accounts of contact with Verdants from the stars.
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"The Contact Has Begun"
Reviewed by K. Wilson
by Phillip Krapf
Review by K.
Numbers in brackets refer to the page number(s) where the
information first appeared.
Ms. K. Wilson is the author of
The Alien Jigsaw, its companion
Researcherís Supplement, and Project Open Mind: Are Some íAliení
Abductions Government Mind Control Experiments? She has been
studying and reporting about the abduction phenomenon for 10
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