9. The Hybrid
Species-Adolescents and Adults
By the time young hybrids have reached adolescence, the aliens have
given them new tasks and responsibilities within the abduction
program. Although they still learn from the humans, they now begin
to interact with abductees more on a sexual and social level.
The aliens' use of the adult hybrids
demonstrates the scope of their Breeding Program. Adult hybrids
assume complex duties within the abduction program which, like those
of the adolescents, sometimes involve sexual relationships with
But the adults have interactions with
humans that go far beyond that.
When hybrids reach adolescence, the aliens begin to give them tasks
to perform. They sometimes help retrieve the abductee from his
normal environment, they help with some procedures, they escort the
abductee from room to room. Their work ranges from menial jobs to
helping the grays with specialized duties. In effect, they become
"apprentices" to the smaller gray aliens.
Although the adolescents "work," they are young and, unlike the
aliens, amuse themselves. Susan Steiner recounted her experiences
with an adolescent hybrid who had some sort of "game."
fifteen-year-old boy escorted her to different rooms, but at one
point sat down with her to play with a machine.
He just smiles at me and he runs
his hand down my arm and takes my wrist. And I kind of like
him because I'm kind of happy to see him.... And he has this
thing sort of tucked under his arm, the little machine, and
he gives it to me.... It's like some kind of wonderful thing
and I should be glad that he gave me this thing. ... And
then I kind of like take the thing and I sink down on the
floor, you know. I'm sort of like playing with it, because I
can tell he wants me to play with it. And I'm thinking, "Oh,
well. I'll play with it even though I don't know what it is,
and I don't understand what I'm doing." I just sort of start
pressing buttons on it... I get the feeling from him that
I'm supposed to know what it is, that I might have seen it
You said that there was some sort of a green kind of glow
coming from part of it?
Light-emitting diode kind of thing. LED? It was like maybe
pencil-thin and it was in the center of the metal piece....
He gives it to me and I, well, first I sort of turn it over
and look at it. I'm looking at it and I'm trying to think,
"What is this? Is this the stereo? Did he take the stereo?"
Then I realize that it's not the stereo. Then I start
hitting all the different buttons. I'm sitting
cross-legged—and I put it down on my knees and start hitting
all the buttons, trying to get something different to happen
other than just the lines moving in the LED display.
... Can you get something different to happen?
No, nothing's happening. Then he takes it from me and he
presses a button, gives it back to me and I'm supposed to
press the same button. I press the button and he takes it
back. Then he presses a button and I'm supposed to press the
button. This goes on for a while and then he gives it to me
and I press a button and there's this flash.
You mean the flash comes from the box itself?
Yeah.... It seems the whole box just flashes ... and I drop
it because I'm afraid of it. I think it's electrical.
You mean, you dropped it on the floor?
Yeah.... He seems amused ... that I dropped it because I was
afraid. He thinks it's very humorous. ... He thinks it's
funny— almost like he thinks it's funny.
Does he smile? Or do you just get a sense that he thinks
I do see a smile and I get a sense, but he doesn't laugh
like we do. I get the feeling that he's like laughing, but
he doesn't laugh like a regular child would laugh. His mouth
does curve into a smile. Then I think those three other
beings come into the room. And they look more serious than
the others, like I'm a little afraid of them. They look very
stern and they look different than the ones in the operating
room.... And they're watching us interact.... And they look
at me like really stern, really stare at me. And I'm a
little afraid but then the little boy touches my shoulder
and I'm not afraid any more.... He tries to bring my
attention back to the toy, that thing, whatever it is. And
then I'm sort of not paying attention to them anymore, I'm
playing with that metal box again.
You mean you were starting to push the buttons again?
Did you push them in a sequence with him? You push, he
pushes, you push, he pushes, or are you doing it by
Yeah, we're doing that. He's pushing a button and giving it
back to me. I'm pushing a button and he's pushing a button,
I'm pushing a button, he's watching. But nothing else
happens. No flash like that.
It doesn't lead to another flash?
No. I'm getting kind of frustrated. The little kid just
thinks it's funny, that I'm frustrated.
So he thinks that's amusing too?
... Yeah, he just seems amused that I can't figure out what
it is. And I get this, like, I don't know, some kind of
feeling from this kid, but I can't figure out what it is
though—almost like he can understand why I can't figure it
out, like he knows why I can't figure it out or something. I
You get a sense that he knows why you're confused?
Um-hum. Like it's not a feeling of superiority, but it's a
feeling of like, "Well, I wouldn't expect you to
understand." That type of thing.1
The late-stage hybrids who display a
strong sexual drive often begin their sexual activity in
adolescence. When Kathleen Morrison was eight years old, a
sixteen year-old hybrid, whom she would know through out her life,
engaged in what was clearly masturbatory activity with her. First
he put her on his lap and began rubbing his body on hers while he
generated sexual feelings in her through a staring procedure.
Kathleen recalled the episode from an
eight-year-old's point of view.
He's done this before?
... It's when we've been quiet together. It's usually when
I'm sitting on his lap. I'm sitting on his lap, and I
straddle his body, and I face him. He gives me wonderful big
hugs. And then sometimes he looks at me and makes me feel
different.... He Says he likes me to sit on his lap and be
very close to him.
... How old are you ... ?
Maybe eight or nine. We don't do this all the time though.
Just sometimes. When we're quiet and alone. He does like to
rub on my body though.
Does he usually wear some kind of outfit when you see him?
Not always. Sometimes he doesn't have a lot on.
When he doesn't have a lot on, you mean he's sort of naked
mid all that?
When you sit on his lap, what does he do then when he's not
He just bends his knees up and I just sit on his lap and sit
back up against his legs. And his legs are like this and I
sit right here but I can lean on his legs and he holds me,
and he breathes pretty heavy sometimes. But he always makes
He makes you leave?
I always have to get off his lap.... I just kind of sit off
on the side, and kind of go into a "comatose" thing. When
he's breathing kind of heavily he tells me to get off his
Hybrid adolescents are encouraged to
have sexual relations with abductees. Christine Kennedy recounted an
incident when, after Mindscan, she had to get on top of an
adolescent hybrid who was reclining on a pad on the floor. The young
hybrid, who appeared to be fifteen years old, engaged in intercourse
She was extremely angry and thought that
she was being used simply to satisfy his needs.
I feel like I was a "treat" that
was tossed to this little fucker....
What are his reactions like? I mean, what does he do with
his arms? Are they just laying at his side, or does he—?
No. They're wrapped tight around me. I can't... move. My
head is laying like over at his shoulder. I'm looking away,
and it's just... I'm totally gone. I'm not even a part of my
... Do you think they're doing this for reproductive
purposes or for other purposes? What's your best guess on
I wouldn't say for reproductive—not when it comes to me,
because I have my tubes tied.3
Some abductees feel that intercourse
with an adolescent is almost like a hybrid "training" session for
the future. On some occasions, an adult hybrid actively directs the
adolescent on how to have intercourse with an abductee.
The adolescent hybrid learns from these
experiences and then engages in more active sexual behavior as an
Adult Hybrid Life
Once the hybrids become adults, their responsibilities increase and,
according to abductee reports, they are more involved in the
abduction routine. Although still in an "assistant" or subordinate
capacity, some adult hybrids conduct the full range of physical,
mental, and reproductive procedures. They work alongside the gray
aliens—and become partners working toward a common goal. In recent
years, abductees have reported events in which hybrids perform
complete abductions without any grays in evidence. Some abductees
prefer being with the hybrids rather than with the grays.
For them, hybrids offer the comfort of
human familiarity. Other abductees find the late-stage hybrids
frightening and prefer the more predictable gray aliens. The grays
act according to a well-defined system, and over time many abductees
have grown comfortable with them. For the most part, the hybrids act
like the grays: task-oriented, efficient, and clinical.
But their presence injects a note of
emotionality and unpredictability. Their very humanness almost makes
them party to a crime involving the kidnapping of men and women. Many
women feel more emotionally vulnerable around late-stage hybrids.
Allison Reed put it best when she said:
It sounds crazy but I feel more
comfortable with the little gray guys than being left alone with
these people-looking [hybrids]. . .. They don't have that
compassion, I don't feel it. I don't know if they're anything
like human beings. Maybe that's why I'm scared, because human
beings can be so cruel. Whereas the gray guys, they do their job
and they don't want to hurt you but they don't want to, you
know, give you kisses and love you either. They're just kind of
neutral in a way. But human beings can be so cruel.4
Little is known of the private life of
hybrids, but some of the most suggestive testimony comes from
Allison's four-and-a-half-day abduction, which provided a rare
opportunity to glimpse aspects of daily hybrid life. Her experiences
reveal that the hybrids have a cleaning routine; they communally
groom themselves and check one another for health problems.
At one point, an alien escort took
Allison to a cleaning and grooming room. Many naked male and female
hybrids between the ages of eighteen and thirty were in the room.
Allison, accompanied by an eighteen-year-old female hybrid, and the
other hybrids walked in a line to a "shower" area. They stood in
front of jets in the wall that sprayed a fine mist that dried on
contact. The jets were about chest high. Allison turned around
slowly so that the spray would spread evenly around her body. She
thought that the mist not only cleaned but protected the skin in
After the shower, she and the others went to a central area in the
middle of the room. The hybrids paired off and began to groom and
inspect each other. The adolescent hybrid inspected her and then
showed Allison how to check her—Allison had to look at the hybrid's
hair, the back of her neck, and her eyes; she was required to pull
the adolescent's lower eyelids down and look for spots of red in the
bottom of each eye. The adolescent told her that the hybrids are
prone to rashes under the armpits and Allison had to check her
The adolescent hybrid had "soft" hair,
pinkish color in her eyelids (with no red spots), no eyelashes, and
taut skin. Her body was long and thin with no hips. It reminded
Allison of the animated character Gumby. After the inspection, the
other hybrids cut each other's toenails. Allison did not have to
perform this task because her adolescent had no fingernails or
toenails. Finally, she and the hybrid brushed each other's hair with
a tool resembling a normal hairbrush.
The hybrid went to another area to get her clothes—a white shift.
She got it from a slot in the bottom of a floor-to-ceiling
cylindrical dispenser, and Allison helped her put it on. A short
time later Allison's alien escort took her to a huge sleep room. The
hybrids were sleeping in tiers, suspended in the air, hooked up to
cables attached to the ceiling. The scene was reminiscent of the
motion picture Coma.5
Susan Steiner also saw a hybrid sleep room.
It had bunk beds arranged in tiers
It could be just as large [as an
airplane hangar]. I can't see the whole thing because it's
divided. There's areas that are divided and there's like bunk
beds all over the place and there's people on the bunk beds....
They're sort of like molded into the wall, and it looks like
they're three on top of each other. And the room is sort of like
divided so I can see, like areas.
And on each side of the wall there's
bunk beds. So there's a lot of them.
They're in tiers of three, you mean?
Right, in tiers of three. And maybe ... they're partitioned off
and there are some on the opposite sides of the wall and there
must be others. I can't see what's on the other side of the
partitions but I have the feeling that there are others. Because
it all looks the same, it's a very homogeneous environment.6
The adult hybrids appear to have a life
that resembles the life humans lead, although the indications are
that they lead that life more communally, and less privately, than
humans do in modern industrialized society. They bathe, sleep,
dress, and work together. Like humans, they have health problems. On
an emotional level, however, their lives bridge the area between
human and alien.
According to abductee reports, the hybrids have no memories of
parents, siblings, family life, nurturing, or other emotionally
important events that bond humans to each other. In a long
conversation, one late-stage hybrid told Reshma Kamal that his
memories were quite different from hers.
And then I'm asking him does he
have parents like I do or kids and things like that. He kind
of looks sad. I don't know, he looks down and then he looks
at me and he's saying no. He says, "We just belong here."
... I almost feel sorry for him. And I'm asking him like I
have a mom and dad, does he have it? He looks down again,
then he looks up at me and he goes, "I know where I'm from
but I don't have bonding like you do."
I said, "What do you mean,
bonding?" And he's saying, "files." ... I ask him again
"What do you mean by files?" . .. And he's saying like, he's
kind of explaining to me like when we look at our ancestors,
we have memories and histories. He's saying when he looks at
his background, he only has to look at files. There's no
bonding and no memories....
He says, "When you remember your mother or your sister,
you're remembering memories of being there, of seeing them."
He's saying, "When I want to do those things, I have to see
files. I don't have that bonding or memories." So I'm
saying, "Haven't you seen your parents?" He said, "I have
seen them but I don't have the same bonding." He said, "We
are just told who they were or what and they're on files."
I don't know what he means by
that. He's saying to me something like, I don't know, he's
explaining to me like when he was a little boy or something.
It's like he's really, really, really sad and he's saying
that when he was a little boy and when he questioned them
[because he looked different than them]—I think he means
"them" by aliens because he looks up there [to aliens in the
room] ... he was always shown a file.... And I said, "A
file? You mean like pictures and things of your belongings?"
He's saying, "More in a medical way." ... He's going into
like medical stuff, the genealogy of the medical stuff of
his parents and things but not in photographs or.... He
says, "Not like picnics you might have or parties but in a
medical way. Do you understand?"
I just kind of shrug my
shoulders like I do, but I don't. . .. I'm saying to him
that can't he come, you know? And he goes, he's asking me,
"Come where? You mean to your home?" And I said, "But that's
your home, isn't it?" He's saying, "I have no home. Not in
the same sense you do." He's saying, "I don't belong
anywhere." I'm asking him like where does he live and he
looks at the aliens and he's saying like them. And I said,
"What do you mean you live with them? Don't you have a home
like I do?" He seems to be saying that he has a home but not
the same meaning that I have attached with a home.
He's asking me a question, "Do you know what a robot means?"
I said yeah. He's asking me like what. And I'm saying,
"Well, a robot is something that you create and it does what
you want it to do and nothing else." When I give him that
answer, he goes, "Now you know how I feel." And I'm saying,
"You're a robot?"
He seems a little annoyed with
me. He says no, but the meaning is the same. That that robot
has no bonding. It just does what it's programmed to do. And
he said, "Do you see that I'm doing the same thing?" And I
said ... "I understand that, but don't you have emotions of
your own?" And he's saying to me, "Even if I had those
emotions, what good are they because nothing will happen?"
And I'm asking him, "What do you mean by that?"
He doesn't answer me but he
looks really sad. And I'm asking him like is he happy? He's
asking me like what do I think or what do I perceive looking
at him. Like I don't answer him because I don't want to hurt
him, but he looks like he has really practically no life.
He's just alive and breathing. He said, "We're just here to
And then he looks at them, the aliens again. He's saying,
"We have to do everything they say." I said, "Do you have a
bond with them like I do with my family?" And he's saying,
"Not the same bond that you have." Like we have
relationships and we feel love, hate, sorrow, and all that.
He said not in that manner, he doesn't have a relationship
with them. It's just like they're in total control of
everything. That he's just their creation, whatever they
did, and he's to do whatever they say.
Then he looks at me and he said
... "If you want to understand me, just think like robots.
That's all there is," he says.7
We do not know the effects of the lack
of familial ties or memories.
Whatever the consequences are, the
hybrids' emotional development in that regard would be devoid of a
commonality that most humans share and their emotional lives would
have to be very different from ours.
Hybrid-Human Information Transference
As they do for the younger hybrids, the abductees are often required
to instruct the adult hybrids. Instruction takes two forms:
directed, and involuntary thought transference. Allison Reed's case
provides a good example. She was directed to instruct four female
adult hybrids on how to bond with a child; the hybrids told her that
they wanted to raise the children in a nonsterile environment more
like "normal" humans and less like their own childhood experience
with the gray aliens.8
Like the older children, the adult hybrids show interest in earthly
activities. For example, Claudia Negron awoke one evening to see two
hybrids in her room—a male and female in their early twenties. They
wanted to know why she was hanging her clothes around the room
instead of in her closet; she explained that she was remodeling the
closet. They asked her other questions about her room and then left.
Sometimes an abductee is required to transfer his memories to a
hybrid, almost as if the transfer were a "data dump." Kathleen
Morrison cupped her hands around a multifaceted orb that glowed red
while a hybrid gazed at her and cupped his hands around hers. He
"downloaded" information from her brain—what school papers she had
been writing and how she went about doing it. He also mentally
examined an argument that she had with her sister.9
Data transference to hybrids also includes emotional responses.
Allison found herself "wired" to a female hybrid who sat opposite
her and performed Mindscan upon her. Allison saw sad and painful
things in her life, such as her grandfather dying, and she also saw
things that had made her angry.
After the procedure was completed, the
hybrid said she felt fortunate because Allison had such a wide range
The most problematic aspect of abductee interaction with late-stage
hybrids is the frequency of sexual activity. The hybrids want sex,
not only because it is critical for the Breeding Program, but also
apparently because it satisfies them. Hybrids have total control
over the sexual encounter, and the male hybrids require female
abductees to have a full range of sexual response.
To ensure this response, the hybrids
perform a separate procedure in which they physically stimulate a
woman almost to orgasm, while an alien stares into her eyes in what
amounts to "fine tuning" the precise neural response in the brain.
"Beverly" 11 had this experience while
she was lying on a table, hooked up to a headgear device:
There's a monitoring type
procedure done. There's ... like something put on my head
that I feel... monitors brain activity, brain waves ...
something to do with brain. It's something to do with brain
and monitoring brain waves, brain action, whatever it does.
This gray one, he's here on my left.
Is this the escort, you mean?
Yeah, same guy.... There's a hybrid man on my right, I'm a
lot more nervous than before and ...
The anxiety has gone up?
A lot. A lot. Especially because of this ... I want to say
"man" but I don't want to humanize it. The gray guy ... he
doesn't come really close to my face but he, using
telepathy, he can pass on to me calming energies but they
don't want me zonked out because then my brain responses
won't be legitimate. If they mess with my brain and probe in
there or whatever and do something to make me calm down and
be vegetable-like, then it will mess up their ...
So, they're allowing you to be nervous?
Yeah.... The hybrid is talking about being calm and stuff
but I don't trust him. He's being nice but I don't like
being in these situations. I just do not like this at all.
And, again, I don't think either one of these guys means any
harm and I don't think any harm is going to come to me but..
. they're doing their job, whatever that is, and I just
don't like the things that they do. This guy here's not
being mean, like, some can be mean. He's not being mean.
He's just being there and what happens is, he touches me
everywhere. Touches me everywhere and in different ways. He
just touches me and my feeling is that my responses are
being monitored to different touches in different places....
It's just, you know, monitoring ... for sexual zones, sexual
stimuli. You know, some people are sexually stimulated when
touched here, some sexually stimulated when touched ... of
course, there's the obvious, you know, that we all have in
common. But other people have different areas that raise
more of an excitement than, maybe, someone else....
Well, how do you know he's doing that?
... There's no dialogue. This is a just "knowing" one—one of
those things I'm sorry I can't tell you how I know. I just
Are you reacting when he's doing this? Are you saying to
yourself, "Yes, this is nice," or, "No, that's not," or
I'm ... in a layer of denial. That nothing you do is going
to be pleasurable to me. And that's where I am, but the
other layer is registering, regardless, on whatever
mechanism they're using to register it.... It's a violation.
I don't like it.12
Similarly, "Paula" was visited by
hybrids in her bedroom. They hooked up an "electrical" device to her
genitals and she had intercourse with a hybrid. At the climactic
moment, the hybrid abruptly removed himself. Her orgasm was so
unnaturally intense, it was almost painful. While this was
happening, one of the hybrids stared at what appeared to be a
"readout" on the machine and told her that it measured "electrical
The device was removed and Paula felt
excruciating physical pain followed by nausea. It created a lesion
on her clitoris that caused her to seek the help of a gynecologist,
who was mystified about how she had received such a wound.13
During intercourse with abductees, some late-stage hybrid males have
"normal" sexual response and physical movement. Others, however, do
not engage in the normal thrusting movements. Abductees describe
more of a "pulse" or a quick penetration and ejaculation. The
hybrids also routinely generate orgasm in women with the help of
Mindscan. Thus, it is possible that female orgasm during hybrid
intercourse produces ovulation or the facilitation of conception.
The hybrids often note the pregnancy to the abductees.
For Stan Garcia, a rehabilitation
counselor, this was a fact he wished he had not heard.
She's right directly in front of
me, standing and looking at me.... I felt disgusted.
Because she was a female, or because of what she was doing?
What she was doing.
What is she doing?
When I say what she was doing, it's like she was chosen, or
she was the one for me. And I felt disgusted, because I
didn't have a say. I'm just disgusted by the whole
thing—that I had no say about it.
When you say she was the one for you, how do you mean that?
She's going to have my kids... . I'm not thrilled at all.14
Some hybrids are born disfigured or with other abnormal
characteristics. For example, the aliens showed Kathleen Morrison
five malformed hybrid babies. Their legs and arms had either
improperly developed or not developed at all. Terry Matthews saw an
older hybrid with a distorted chin, giving him a vaguely "Popeye"
At another time, Terry saw an adolescent
hybrid whose deformed head was too wide and had "bumps" on it.15
The hybrids have other physical problems. Allison Reed observed
young hybrids with red blotchy marks on their skin. During a 1994
abduction she was told that her "sister" was "sick" and needed her
help; the aliens inserted a needle into Allison's neck and drew
blood from her jugular vein. In a similar scenario, hybrids brought
Susan Steiner to a sick adolescent hybrid boy. They drew blood from
her (they said they wanted "hemoglobin") and extracted a small
section of her liver. The aliens explained that they needed these
things if the boy was to survive.16
Female hybrids have reproductive problems. Abductees have reported
that the females seem to have difficulties with stillbirths. There
is also an indication that female hybrids have more problems
reproducing with human males than male hybrids have reproducing with
Reshma Kamal once asked an adult hybrid
why there were no females around.
I'm asking him how come I didn't
see any females. And he looks up at me and I'm saying like,
"Females, like I am. I'm a female, you're a male. Like in
your group or race"—I don't know what he is—"aren't there
any females?" He goes, he's asking me if I mean him or the
aliens and I'm saying him. Where are the females? And he
seems to be telling me that they're used for some other
task. I'm asking him what task and I'm asking him are they
the same as me. He said, "Not all of them are like you."
He's pointing toward his stomach and he's going like this
with it. He goes, "They can't."
He's making a rounded gesture with his stomach as if they
were pregnant or something?
Exactly. He said, "They can't." And I'm saying to him, "What
do you mean, they can't?" He goes, "Like the parts that you
have, theirs doesn't function like that." And I'm saying,
"How come? Aren't they humans?" And he's saying, "Not like
you. They don't have the same functions. They cannot be used
for that." He says some of them can but not quite. It's not
the same. So I'm asking him what does he mean by that and
he's saying to me that of course they have tried to
impregnate them and all that, and he said that it didn't
work. The fetus or whatever—the baby didn't develop all the
way for a normal survival.18
Allison Reed saw a hybrid female giving
birth to a stillborn fetus. The aliens led Allison to conclude that
"the fetus was able to sustain its life in [the hybrid female] for
some time and that in itself is quite a step."19
Most hybrids who assist the aliens on board a UFO go about their
duties dispassionately. At times, however, abductees can elicit
emotions from the hybrids. Take the report of abductee Doris Reilly.
When she was five years old, two adolescent female hybrids escorted
her to a procedural room, where they placed her on a table.
She kicked her feet and flailed her arms, and they had to hold her
down to subdue her. She reached up and grabbed a hybrid's hair,
giving it a strong yank. The hybrid uttered a surprised "Uh!" and
Doris could see tears welling up in her eyes.20
In other cases,
abductees have reported that the hybrids laugh, seem sad, angry,
happy, and so forth—all emotions within the accepted human range.
There is, however, an emotional component of some hybrids that is
unacceptable—and out of control. It is as if some hybrids have been
improperly socialized and are running loose, doing whatever they
please. They have strong sexual drives, but they are not controlled
by social constraints. One alien told Allison that the aliens must
learn everything, that genetics play almost no role in their
personality makeup. He said that although the behavior of the
hybrids is, to a large extent, also learned, their human genes
affect their emotional reactions and make them less predictable.
This unpredictability has been a source of concern to him.
Hybrid emotional problems show up most sharply when they have
personal projects— especially selected abductees—assigned to them,
and when they act independently of aliens.
Some late-stage hybrids have responsibilities that go beyond the
normal procedures of the standard abduction scenario. They have
personal projects, long-term relationships with a human abductee for
reproductive purposes. The relationship between the abductee and her
personal-project hybrid begins early, when the abductee is a young
child, and continues throughout childhood.
The abductee is subjected to the normal
abduction procedures and then either has private interaction with
the hybrid or is escorted by the hybrid during the abduction. They
talk and play together and build a friendship.
When the abductee reaches puberty, usually between the ages of
thirteen and fifteen, sexual intercourse begins. While other hybrids
may have intercourse with the abductee during her abduction
lifetime, her personal-project hybrid remains her steadiest
reproductive partner. When "Emily" turned fifteen, she began to have
intercourse with her personal-project hybrid, and this activity
continued once a month for the next six months.21
"Sally" began sexual activity with her
personal-project hybrid at age thirteen. She was puzzled about why
he would want to do such a thing. She knew it might lead to
pregnancy but her knowledge about sexual matters was extremely
limited, and besides, he said it would be all right—nobody would
know and he would take care of any pregnancy.22
Although sexual activity is primarily for depositing sperm, the
late-stage hybrids appear to enjoy it. They often display the human
emotions of affection and love toward their selected personal
project. During intercourse, they engage in foreplay: They caress,
kiss, and so forth. They sometimes talk romantically, professing
their love. Abductees often share in the emotional
The "couple" laughs, jokes, and makes
small talk. After intercourse, some hybrids even linger for a short
time before putting on their clothes and going on to another task.
Many abductees experience deep love for their personal-project
hybrids during abductions. For some, this can spill over into their
"normal" lives and interfere with their social and emotional
Both men and women have reported personal-project hybrids. "Rob's"
personal hybrid is Janice, with whom he has had several children.
The aliens bring him to Janice after the standard procedures are
completed and then he interacts with his "family." He usually has
intercourse with Janice, although he has been forced to have
intercourse with other hybrids as well. He has formed an emotional
attachment to the hybrid family that is intensely revived when he
Indications are that the gray aliens assign the hybrids to specific
humans when the abductees and hybrids are young. When they are
older, it is a joint decision by the hybrids and the aliens. When
Emily was eight years old, her personal-project hybrid gave her a
glimpse of how the decisions were made and what they would be doing
together in the future. She was on a table having procedures
administered to her by a "doctor" (possibly an early-stage hybrid)
while having this conversation.
She recounted it as if she were an
[He] wants me to be his one day. He
wants this project. There's something he wants to do. It's a
commitment he has to make to his government, and he's telling me
he really, really does find me interesting. He really does
care.. . . He's going to make me do something else so that I
won't be afraid anymore. He said it would be all right. I don't
know what they are going to do to me.... I don't want some bad
thing! He said we don't have to do it for a long time.
He made me see things. I saw a big, big garden, and there's
flowers, and there's no bugs and stuff to scare me. There's
swans. And I'm older and he's older too. And I have on a pretty
dress, a long pretty dress. And he says one day we'll be
together when I'm all grown up. "You'll be so pretty, I'll be so
proud of you. We'll have such pretty babies. You'll be such a
good mother. And you won't have to be afraid. I don't want you
to have any stress— nothing for you to worry about."
And then they were through. And I
looked at him, and the doctor was not happy. He didn't talk, but
I knew what they said. It was, "He doesn't choose his own
assignments." And he told the doctor that he should tend to
medical care and he would worry about the projects. He didn't
say anything, they looked it.23
For women abductees, a critical
criterion for inclusion in the personal-project hybrid program is
that she must have normal reproductive function. "Donna" was
borderline. When she was fourteen, the aliens found a gynecological
dysfunction that threatened her status in the program.
Her personal-project hybrid intervened.
The hybrids and two gray beings argued about her inclusion as a
personal project. The dramatic scene that followed reveals the
importance of the personal-project relationship and the interplay
between the hybrids and the aliens.
Although the aliens are in charge, the
hybrids can sometimes assert their will:
He wants me to be reconsidered
because I should be in this with him. That we've been
together for a very long time, that we have established a
working [relationship] and there has been a lot of energy
put in here, and that I should be part of this. Their
reaction is that there is something that is wrong. And he
doesn't agree with them.... He wants a reconsideration.
What is it a reconsideration of?
I don't really know. He says that I have to be reconsidered
to be working with him and that I need to be with him in
this project. And they said that there is a problem. And I
really don't know what they're talking about. And then I
feel like he starts talking about me as if I was "stock." He
starts talking about physical attributes, and that I am in
good shape, and muscles are good. I'm physically fit. I fit,
this is not the word, I fit the "criteria." ... And their
rebuttal is there could be problems. It's not the exterior,
it's the interior. And they agreed that I need to do an
examination. He pushes the issue and tells them they have to
tell him more, and they may be wrong, and he's arguing. He's
being very argumentative. It's a little embarrassing.
I've never had anybody stand there and argue at somebody
else about me-----But I know I don't want him to go away,
Do they argue back or does he ... ?
He's physically displaying his annoyance by stomping every
once in a while and moving around. And they're just standing
there very reserved responding to his outbursts. At one
point he actually makes an audible sound-----It's like, "AUGHHHHH!"
You know, that frustration. He does that though when he
looks at me.... This is going to sound funny but it's like
he's communicating with them in one way and he's
communicating with me in my way. The two of them walk back
toward where one of those little mobile tables are—mobile
cart things—and he turns me around and holds my shoulders
again and looks right at me. Right up in my face.
Does he communicate to you then?
He says that they need to do an exam and that he's not going
to leave me. He's going to stay. That he's going to be with
me during the exam and that it's going to be all right. And
that I just need to relax. It's going to be okay. And that
through going through the exam I'll be able to stay with
him. So then he walks me over to where that table is. And he
helps me sit on it, on the end of it, on the narrow end,
because he's a lot bigger than I am. He's taller. And I'm
sitting there, my legs are dangling over the end. He says,
"No matter what happens, remember I'm still with you." Then
I lie down on the table.
Is it sort of a standard exam or is it—?
It's straight gynecological.
They don't do any anything else?
No. Well, he does. He moves my hair and he strokes the side
of my face a couple of times. He's got a hold of my other
hand. I ask him why are they doing this? He said, "Remember,
I'm here." ...
What are they doing down there?
I don't think that they are just in the vagina either. I
think they're probably up in the uterus too. They're
checking some sort of a monitor. I'm going to say that this
is like a probe that is going in. And it has something to do
with the walls of the uterus. It's like they are trying to
show him something, and he's not agreeing with their
diagnosis—that it's not all that odd.
... When they try to show him something how do they do that?
There is some sort of monitor that they are looking at, and
as they are talking it's showing something on it.
Can you kind of get into their conversation a little bit?
It has something to do with, I don't function normally. That
they see this every once in a while and that I don't
function as normally or with the ease that they prefer. And
there is something about, of course, that with the abnormal
functioning it becomes too risky.... Detection could occur.
I don't know.
So it's detection that's the bottom line?
Yeah. It's too risky. The end agreement is that they would
have to monitor the situation. It's like a probation period.
And if it ever became too risky, you know, that's it.
... I wouldn't be in the project anymore. But they're going
to look at it, and monitor it, and see how it works. He
keeps on saying things like, "There have been worse that
have done," and he's arguing back to them. That he's seen
worse and it's not that bad. And this is a good
candidate-----This is a "go." This is possible. I get the
feeling that they don't really want to do this, but they're
You mean to satisfy him?
Yes. They are giving him the benefit of the doubt. My
feeling is, he always takes care of me. And that it
shouldn't be too long before we start....
Where is your friend?
Sitting on my right. He's sitting right next to me. Yep, I
know what he's doing. What is he doing? He's [sexually]
exciting me.... He's staring in your eyes? Yes. It's like
he's demonstrating. It's interesting. So he's doing this
sexual arousal business while you are lying there. Right. As
far as I can tell they got what they wanted. They were
looking for something. But he didn't let it go all the way
to orgasm, at all.. .. And he gets up and walks to the end
of the table. ... They are talking at the end of the table.
They're still debating this? They're having a good
discussion, and the two grays keep on saying it will be
monitored. And he finally gives up and agrees to that. It
will be monitored.
So he didn't want it monitored?
No, he didn't want it monitored. But he doesn't seem to be
winning on that point and is willing to let it go. They're
not budging. So this is where they draw the line? Right. And
the two of them leave. They go out through the door. ...
There I lie and there he is, still being upset.
He's still upset even now although they've left and he's
basically won his argument. Yeah. But he had to give in on
some of it.24
When "Emily" was fifteen, her
personal-project hybrid also had a discussion with her about how the
aliens had selected her for the program. Several hybrids abducted
her from a wooded area behind her home.
Her conscious memory was
that she had talked to a deer.
Her clothes were removed, she
was placed on a table, and the hybrid told her that he would
not harm her. He keeps telling me he's not and that he'll
always take care of me. He's been tracking me for a long
time. He already knew where I was, he said that I've been
evaluated over the years and he's been studying me and that
now that I'm ready to breed, he's decided he wants to be the
one to breed with me.
I see. Does he use the word, "breed"?
Mm-hmm. Somebody told him that it wasn't prudent, and he
said it's already decided, and the medical tests were
favorable. If it looked like I was fertile, that he would
bond with me. And people did that sometimes, he said, where
he's from, and it's permanent. But the people he's working
with think he's making a mistake— that I'm "a resource, not
a resort." He made the decision himself.25
Once a personal-project hybrid has been
assigned to an abductee, he becomes a significant part of her
unconscious mind because of the emotional, and human, quality of the
experiences. The effects upon the abductee's social and sexual
development can be substantial. And most of these effects depend
upon the emotional and physical quality of a particular independent
It is their personal relationships with human abductees that allow
hybrids to have a semi-independent life beyond the confines of the
UFO. Independent hybrid activity constitutes an extremely important
part of the abduction phenomenon.
Indeed, it is at the very heart of the
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