... I donít want to be talking to you. I really donít. I wish I
could put on a mask and not be here. But I am, because in my heart,
in my mind, in my entire being, I know that we are on a path that is
... There are people all over the Earth that have had experiences
similar to mine, and weíre all waiting for the right time to stand
up in unity Ė In Unity Ė and come forward and speak to the world.
... and immediately this rush came over me. I thought: Ahhhh... this
is it. And he said: Have you ever worked for the CIA or the FBI? And
of course, Iím 22 years old. I donít want to have anything to do
with this. Iím thinking: Why is this happening to me?
So what makes this fascinating is that as a child growing up, my
father on numerous occasions had told me a story of him being on the
streets of Paris during the war Ė because of course heís from Europe
Ė and how a man approached him. And what my father said was that
they asked him to become part of this Psychic Army, the Russian
And he kept saying to me: If they ever come to you, do not go with
them. Do you understand? Donít ever go with them, because if you do,
they will own you.
... I was shown an image of being in an underground base that...
what took place there was so dark and ugly and horrifying to me that
it was difficult for me to deal with.
... What are you doing here? Why canít you just leave me alone? And
then I walked on board the craft.
... The knowledge is that weíre not alone, that weíre being watched,
that what weíre doing is being looked upon by other beings that do
have a certain amount of knowledge that we ourselves do not have.
... I have seen the future through them, with their assistance.
... I believe that because we are being awakened to begin sharing
this information with people, that there are great changes that are
coming and that we need to all understand that. Whether it was going
to be a meteor hitting the Earth, or whether it was going to be war
breaking out, or whether it was going to be famine, or there was
going to be Earth changes that took place Ė any of these things -
that man had the ability to change this timeline of what it was that
was going to be coming.
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Kerry Cassidy: Hi, Iím Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot, and weíre
here with Miriam Delicado. And sheís got a website called
Alienbluestar.com, and sheís got a very interesting story to tell.
Sheís a contactee and she has a special relationship with
the Mayan peoples, as we will see as we go forward.
Hi, Miriam, how are you today?
Miriam Delicado: Very well, thank you. Thank you so much for having me, Kerry.
K: Absolutely. Itís a real pleasure. Iíve read your book. Itís a
wonderful book. And why donít you just start at the beginning,
whatever feels comfortable, and tell the people your story? And
letís go from here.
M: Okay. To start, itís a very, very big story and
itís difficult for me to be able to convey to people the story of my
life, which is what I tried to do a little bit in my book, Blue
Star, is give people an overview of many of the things that have
happened to me.
Iíve had a very interesting past twenty years of my life, where Iíve
had numerous contacts with extraterrestrials from other places. And
often people have asked me where it is that these beings are from.
And thatís a very big question, so weíll get into that in a little
But to give the viewers an overview: You know, my life started out
very strange right from the very beginning, and my life was not an
ordinary one when I was growing up. I first started to notice that I
was different probably when I was about two years old. And I
actually have memories that could take me all the way back to being
a baby as well as... Most of my remembering came back to me when I
was about two.
So when I was probably about 9 years old my psychic abilities
started to kick in and numerous strange things started to happen to
me. I was having very vivid dreams and all sorts of things along
those lines that I really couldnít explain.
I used to play this little game when I was a child, about watching
the people in the cars... as I was driving past them in a car. And I
would try to think of what they were saying or thinking in their
heads. And when I did that, it was fascinating to me, some of the
things that I would hear them thinking about. But at the same time I
was always scared that they would know that I was, you know, probing
into their minds, and I never wanted to get caught doing that.
So thatís a very, very clear memory for me ever since I was very,
very young. Itís not something that I do now. Itís not something
that I do consciously, ever, at any point, because of course I would
have to ask someoneís permission in order to do that. So right from
the very beginning I was a little bit different.
And as my life moved forward, these abilities of mine just became
stronger and stronger. And by the time I was a teenager, I was doing
all sorts of things. I was having dreams that were prophetic. And,
you know, to use terms that people would understand, I saw a number
of visions that actually came true within a very short period of
time. And I also had encounters with, sort of, beings that I wasnít
clear with where they were from or what focus they... where they
And it was really unnerving for me growing up, because even though I
knew that my father had some sort of abilities as well, I wasnít
close enough to him to be able to talk to him about it. And that
made my earlier years very difficult, just for that reason alone.
Now, my father was an interesting character in my life because he
seemed to possess certain abilities as well. And when we were kids
we were always, you know, a little bit nervous around him, thinking
that he would always know what we were doing.
So when - jumping way forward into my life, into the year 1988,
which is 20 years ago, it was interesting when I did have this
encounter on the highway in northern British Columbia with
extraterrestrials. And this was a physical encounter that took place
that changed my entire life.
But when it happened, it was almost immediate that I knew that my
father had had contact, simply because... A number of the things
that I was told by these beings, my father used to talk about when
we were kids all the time - about how the world would eventually
change, and how we needed to learn how to survive, and what it is
that we needed to do. This type of thing.
So I always knew that heíd
K: Didnít he also work for the, you know, an agency, a secret... you
know, in Intel in some capacity?
M: Not that Iím aware of.
K: Because you talk about him being approached. And he also warned
you about being approached at some point. Isnít that right?
K: And how do you know that unless, you know, youíve been
M: That was a very interesting story that my father used to tell me
as a child. It was a fascinating story that always, you know, made
me really nervous and I had no clue as to what he was talking about.
So what I need to do is step forward, past 1988.
It was a couple of years later and I was working at a little yogurt
shop. And this is a really fascinating piece to this puzzle of my
life, and even I myself am still, to this day, made a little bit
wary of it.
So the year was, you know, a couple of years after 1988 and I was
working in this yogurt shop. And I was just having a normal day, or
I was trying to.
And this man walked past the window of the shop and
he looked directly at me, into my eyes.
And when he did, he came right in the door, walked right up to me,
looked me straight in the eye, and he said: Do you work for the CIA
or the FBI?
And I said: No. I donít.
And immediately this rush came over me, and
I thought: Ahhhh... this is it.
And he said: Have you ever worked for the CIA or the FBI?
And of course, Iím 22 years old. I donít want to have anything to do
with this. Iím thinking: Why is this happening to me?
I said: No. I
And then he proceeded to tell me... He said: Have you ever thought
about working for the Russians?
And of course I said: Absolutely not.
And he then proceeded to tell me how the Russians had been working
with people like myself for a very long time. And that if I joined
them, that I would never be alone again, that I would be surrounded
with people that were like me. And I said I was not interested.
And what he was talking about was the
Psychic Program. And he said
that the Psychic Program had been going on for a very long time, and
of course I knew all about this.
And I very nicely, politely, with a
smile on my face, looked at this man and said that I was not
And he kept pushing and saying: Do you know how strong you are?
And I smiled at him. I said: Yes, I do know how strong I am.
And he said: But can you control your abilities?
And I said: Actually, I can.
And then he said that they would still be very much interested in
working with me.
And I told them that there was no way. I said: What
I would like you to do is go back to the people that sent you here,
thank them very much for their interest and tell then that thereís
no point in ever coming back because I will never be interested.
So what makes this fascinating is that as a child growing up, my
father on numerous occasions had told me a story of him being on the
streets of Paris during the war Ė because of course heís from Europe
Ė and how a man approached him.
And what my father said was that
they asked him to become part of this Psychic Army, the Russian
And he kept saying to me: If they ever come to you, do not go with
them. Do you understand? Donít ever go with them, because if you do,
they will own you. You canít run and you canít hide because they
will find you with their minds.
And so of course I was always very frightened by this. And it didnít
make any sense to me growing up. But in that moment, as soon as the
man walked into the store and said: Do you work for the CIA or the
FBI? I knew exactly who he was, what he was there to ask me, and I
was very adamant that I was not interested.
And Iím not interested
for anyone to do something along those lines.
K: Okay. Yeah. I remember that story from your book and I think itís
a real bell-ringer. I think your father had... what? Maybe Native
American blood somewhere in there? Heís certainly got, I donít know,
European... What would you say your background is, just in terms of
genetics, I guess?
M: My mother is German and, as far as I know, all the way back sheís
German. My father is Yugoslavian. And, as far as I know... His
family history going far, like way, way, way back, I believe that
thereís some interesting blood there. But for me to say anything for
certain would not be fair to him or to anyone because I am not sure.
But as far as Native American blood goes, no, I donít believe that
But, with his bloodline, if thereís anyone interested in
looking it up that would be able to go very far back, meaning, you
know, even thousands of years, I think that it would be fascinating
to see where it led.
K: Okay. So letís go to your incident in 1988 and tell a little more
about that, kind of capsulate it, if you will.
M: In 1988 I was living a very normal, average life as a young
adult. Iíd just moved from a small town into the big city in
Vancouver, British Columbia. And my friends and I had decided to
take a road trip to my home town. And on the way up there,
everything was normal. We took the drive and everything was fine.
But on the return journey everything, everything changed.
There were four of us, four adults and a young child in the car. And
the trip... we were driving for hours. I was sleeping in the back
seat of the car. And then it started to get dark out. The people
that were driving wanted a break, so they went into the back seat,
and I went up into the front, into the passenger side with my
And right away these big balls of light... they looked like
truck lights, actually; thatís what we thought that they were for
the longest time... came streaming up behind us rather quickly in
the car. And as that happened, we were wondering why they were
traveling so fast.
Now, these particular lights followed us for hours and hours in the
darkness. And every time we came up to a car or any kind of house or
buildings at all, the lights would fall back and disappear.
So after hours of this going on, eventually we went through a town
where we thought for sure that we had lost the lights. And as soon
as we got to the other side of this town, into the forested area,
the absolute moment we said: Okay, weíre clear. Thereís no way they
can catch up with us... and literally in the blink of an eye, there
they were, these balls of light that were probably about this big.
[holds hands about 12 inches apart]
And they came up behind us. And then Ė poof
- and at this point,
after hours they had been appearing and disappearing, appearing and
disappearing, and in the blink of an eye. So my friend got very,
very nervous, as I did. Neither one of us were comfortable with what
was happening at all, and the people in the back seat were still
So all of a sudden I screamed at her and I said: Pull over the car
right now! Itís not you they want. Itís me! And I went to grab the
steering wheel to pull her over, when all of a sudden she just sort
of flopped, you know, like a Raggedy Ann doll, flopped her head over
and started pulling over and stopped at the side of the road.
And by that time the car filled with light from every direction. And
these balls of light were sitting behind the car. So at that point
- I was the only one conscious at that time - when I turned from
the back of the car to the front, I saw a craft on the road.
Now, I couldnít make out any detail because it looked almost misty
and very, very bright. And
these beings that were about four feet
tall walked... were walking towards me. They were very androgynous,
almost childlike in their nature. And they had big round black eyes.
They didnít have any oval eyes at all. These were round black eyes.
And they were directing me to get out of the car, which I did. And I
was very scared. I wasnít terrified though, and that distinction
needs to be made. I was not terrified. I was scared.
So I got out of the car. They led me down the highway a little bit,
and at this point I wasnít even thinking about my friends, I was
just wondering where they were taking me.
And on this embankment on the left... they led me up the embankment
where I saw, when I looked up, a larger craft that had two beings
standing in this doorway. And they had blond hair - and I mean
blond as in snow white hair - and the most brilliant blue,
Mediterranean water blue, eyes that youíve ever seen, and quite
incredible. And the beings, the short ones, took me to the craft,
and when I got to the doorway I walked onboard the craft.
But what was interesting was that just prior to all of this
happening Iíd had a dream in the back seat of the car. And in this
dream that I had, this man and woman told me, they said:
coming for you soon. Do not be afraid. We are your friends. We are
your family. Do not be afraid.
And then, when I saw these two tall beings, the moment that I laid
eyes on them, I said in my mind: What are you doing here? Why canít
you just leave me alone?
And then I walked onboard the craft.
K: And did you have any memories of what happened on the craft at
M: From the moment I walked off that craft, I had very clear
memories. And I have had those clear memories for twenty years.
K: Clear memories of what happened on the craft? Or just clear
memories up to the point youíve told us?
M: Both. Once I was onboard the craft, I remember a great deal of
what happened to me. I do not by any means remember the full three
hours. I donít. And I donít know if I ever will or not, because up
to this point... I mean, I have not had hypnosis done to recover
memories. So thatís a very important point for me to make to anyone
watching, is that these memories have come from conscious memories.
So, in other words, I walked onto the craft, I had this encounter.
It took me some time, but I did come to realize that it was a total
of three hours. It was very clear math that I did to work this out.
So there was three hours of missing time. And I remember quite a bit
of the information that they gave me at that time.
There were, ah... There were things that have stayed with me so
clearly that even as Iím looking at you I can still see the images
in my mind every time I hear about... you know...
K: Can you give us an idea what was conveyed to you at that time?
And does that have something to do with what youíre doing here now,
visiting Sedona and
Hopiland, the Four Corners area?
M: It has everything to do with it. Twenty years ago I was given
messages. And these messages and information that I was given were
so crystal clear to me that two days after I walked off the craft I
had a clear understanding of all of my psychic abilities, and where
they came from, and how I had them, and why I had them.
I had a great understanding of my father that Iíd never had before
in my life. I knew that heíd had contact. I had a clear
understanding that there were many other people in the world that
were like myself and that all of these things were related.
And after two days I started writing quite a bit of this down. I did
not by any means write it all down, but there were key points that I
did put on paper. Now at the time, even with some of them, I did not
understand the full extent of what it was in this information, but
it was about the Four Corners area as being one of the ďsafe landsĒ
in what they termed the End Times - if these End Times came in the
form that they were giving warnings about.
So they gave me warnings about possible futures in which the planet
could potentially have destruction, and the people could potentially
have a very difficult time.
Now, these warnings were just possibilities, but they were things
that they had made very clear to me, crystal clear to me, that
humanity had a choice in whether or not we were going to end up on
this destructive path or a positive path.
So, many of these things were told to me twenty years ago. But,
getting into it a little bit deeper, they also told me a great deal
about the Four Corners area in particular.
So of course I did not, at that time as I was still trying to
process all of this information, truly understand what it was that
they were saying, how this particular area was a ďsafe land,Ē and
how at this time there were certain people that would gather
together in this area.
Four Corners area is a really important area to these beings and
it is because it is one of the center points on the Earth where
gatherings will take place for many people. And it does not
necessarily mean that everyone needs to pack up, leave, and go to
the Four Corners area because itís a ďsafe land.Ē
What it means is that, even if an individual travels through the
area, they are going to be able to have information coming to them
within their own selves in order to assist them and help them to
know where it is they need to be on the planet.
If there is a great cataclysm that does take place, there are
certain areas on the Earth that will be in safe zones. But that
doesnít mean that youíre going to be able to go there and be taken
care of. What it means is that these areas will not have that great
destruction, but it still will be in chaos. So that needs to be
clarified to everyone and that there are these particular safe spots
and safe lands all over the Earth.
Now, the indigenous people all over the Earth have known these
things for thousands of years, and they are the ones that have all
of this knowledge as to where all of these particular areas are. And
if we take a look at their myth stories, we are going to be able to
find that information.
And, at the same time, this has been guarded by them for thousands
of years so that, if we needed the information, it would be made
public for everyone. So itís really important. The Hopi, as well as
others on the planet, play a part in this.
Now, there needs to be some very clear understanding here about what
Iím going to say, because I do have friends that are in Hopi. And I
have talked to people there, but by no means at all am I a
spokesperson for them or do I speak on their behalf whatsoever.
So what Iím going to do is, Iím going to share my experience with
you. Iím not going to talk about Hopi.
Iím going to share my
experiences that revolve around them.
K: Maybe you can tell us where the link up came? You were told by
these beings in 1988, somehow. I assume this is when you were also
told to come to Hopi at some point.
There was also some kind of a, I
donít know if it was a stone or a necklace, or something that you
had, and you buried in your back yard? Do you want to share that
story before we kind of move into the bigger picture?
M: Yes. The relationship between these beings and the Hopi, for
example... Again, this is only from my experiences, and itís
fascinating. Even to me itís fascinating.
When I was onboard the craft, I was sitting in what I call a ďlight
chair,Ē and it was... you could look at it just like this. [points
to the chair sheís sitting on.] Except, instead of it being a chair,
it was made from pure light, so it almost glowed. And I sat in this
chair, and I looked across the room, and I had a being on either
side of me. And a screen popped up. And the screen was actually
quite large. It was probably about this... as large as the chair,
and you know. Two or three feet high. And as I looked at the screen,
there was information that came across it. And images.
These images would be accompanied by information that was given to
me by these beings, either through telepathy or - meaning they
would directly speak to me - or it felt like there was just a
constant flow of information being sort of placed within my mind.
Now, one of the things that they shared with me was the creation of
man. And this is very much related to the Hopi and all of the
indigenous people and ourselves.
So, to make this story really short, they explained that
they had a
hand in creating mankind, but by no means were they God. That they
were the helpers of this Earth to insure that... They were
overseers, so that they would be here to watch over the Earth, to
help man become more than what they currently are.
So, in the beginning life was
created but nothing came of it. So they... Itís like saying
that they threw the seeds of life across the land just to
see what would come up. And the idea was that a vessel would
be made so that the sparks of life - us - could then
enter and experience life in this world. But nothing ever came of
In the Second World, they gave this life more form, but still
thought that it would evolve into something more. And again nothing
of any real value was produced.
In the Third World that they created... And, again, these are the
things that were shown and told to me. And in the Third World, they
said that the form - meaning our bodies - were created, and then
our souls would come into the bodies. And when they did, we had all
this knowledge; we had all this ability to communicate with one
another; we had telepathy; we had an understanding far beyond what
we currently do right now.
But it was like giving children matches to play with without
allowing them to evolve, more along the lines of emotionally, and to
be able to handle all of this knowledge. So they kind of went crazy.
They played around too much. They were becoming destructive. And the
things that they did were very dark and evil at that point.
So again the world was sort of cleaned out, cleaned off, and again
these new vessels were created - meaning the vessels that we have
now. So thereís been a slow evolution of ďmankindĒ over time.
As this took place, one of the things that happened was... In this
Third World I was shown an image of these people. And it was sort of
like looking from above. And I looked down into this room and I saw
these people. And these people, I was told, were living the life
that was intended, which was the spiritual life.
And so, because they had this great knowledge, and because they had
a true understanding of why they were here and the bodies that they
had seemed to be doing very well, they were spared and taken from
the Third World and brought into this, the Fourth World.
Now, one of the things that happened in this vision is I was told
that one day I would find these people and I would know what to do.
So when I went into the Four Corners area for the very first time in
2003, I knew I had to go through Hopi but I really didnít know why.
The only thing I knew was that there was a reason for this, and it
was a very big reason, and it was very, very important.
So when I did go through Hopi, I had what I would call a ďpsychic
flash,Ē where I saw some of these Hopi people and they changed right
in front of my eyes. And it was in this flash that I had all of the
visions that were given to me onboard the craft, as well as what
they wanted me to do, as well as what was happening on the Earth,
where we came from, where weíre going.
It was just mind blowing. It was so much. But most important, I
realized that these were the people that they wanted me to find. I
realized that the Hopi were these individuals that were taken Ė
ďindividualsĒ meaning people - that were taken from the Third World
into the Fourth World, and that they had a great purpose at this
So it was no surprise to me that I came across them at all. And
their role on the planet is very important for the future of
It is my hope, and I hope with my heart, that all of us
the Hopi, the indigenous from all around the world, and everyone
else that has an understanding and a caring and a passion and a
desire to help this planet - will truly come together and be able
to save us from this destructive path that I was shown.
K: You came to Hopi, though, and it was an interesting sort of
series of events that put you there. And then also... and I donít
know, this may encompass beyond 2003... but your experience of
meeting... And I donít know his name. Heís a Hopi elder, I believe.
And you ended up staying at his house.
Do you want to tell a little of that story? Because its kind of...
Itís really compelling, in the sense that here you are, a complete
stranger, a white woman, walking into this tribal setting, and in
some strange way they seem to have accepted you and welcomed you in.
M: In 2004 I took a trip again by myself. And during this particular
journey, I knew before I even went there what was going to happen.
And I was very nervous.
On the first trip I bought a ring at a little store in Hopi. And I
went back there in 2004 and talked to the woman that sold me the
ring. And I was trying to tell her some of these things that had
happened to me. And the way that I talked about it was... I kept
telling her I had these visions, or I had these dreams, and how I
came to all this information. And she was really taken aback by the
things that I was saying.
And she said to me: I think you should speak to one of our elders.
So she hummed and hawed about who she should send me to. And then
she told me: Go to this mesa. This is where this person is. This is
And I was thinking:
Oh wow. This is it. I knew this was going to
So I go up onto the mesa and I find this man. And he was not very
impressed that I was at his door, initially.
And he was kind of
humming and hawing, like:
What are you doing here? I canít help you.
And I said: No, Iím only here to share this with you. Thatís it.
So I again started this amazing story, about how I had these visions
and dreams about certain things and how I found them to be
completely related to Hopi prophecies. And that they werenít just
related. They were almost Ė almost - identical in their nature.
the story of their creation story, again, exactly the same as what
these tall blond entities and beings had told me. So I was telling him all of this. And then finally he looked at me
and he said: Wait a minute. Are you talking about... ?
He kind of
leaned across the table and said:
Are you talking about aliens?
And I thought: Ahhhh... It was such a relief. It was such a relief
in that moment because I had to wait for him to bring it up.
And he said: Okay. Okay, now talk to me. Now tell me this
So I continued talking to him, and he appeared to understand and
know what it was that I was talking to him about. And at that point,
you know, after I had been speaking to him for hours, he looked at
me and he said:
Why are you here?
And I said: Iím here to share with you.
And he said: No. Why are you here? I donít understand. And he was
just kind of shaky about it.
And I said: Well Iím only here to share this story with you.
And he said: You know, I have had people come from all over the
world. He has himself, as well as Hopis. They have people come from
all over the world.
And he said: They come with similar stories, but not like this.
said: All of them come here and they ask me questions. And you
havenít asked me a single question. Why?
And I said: What could I possibly ask you that I donít already have
the answer to?
So that made him even more nervous. And itís not because I believe
that I have all of the answers. It is because I know that for myself
I donít need a Hopi to tell me something. I know what I need to know
and Iím content with that.
Now, what happened after being with him for some time is even more
fascinating, because I left at one point. He asked me to leave
because someone came to his home. And I walked out of his house. And
I walked along the mesa, at which time I started walking towards the
Hopi womanís home who sold me the ring. She told me where she lived.
Her daughter was outside.
So I started talking and sitting with her
And very quickly after that she started speaking Hopi to one of her
friends. And I think it was that moment that I said to myself:
Thatís it. There is absolutely not an ounce of questioning left
anymore. Because in that moment she said a word in Hopi that I
recognized as being one of the words that these tall blond aliens
spoke to me.
And I asked the little girl. I said: What does that
mean? And she said: Itís thank you; saying thank you to a woman in
Hopi. And I said: Wow. Thatís amazing.
So the two of us were walking around for a little while, and I went
in to get a pop from this little place, something to drink. And when
I was in this area, I all of a sudden heard in my head: What are you
doing here? Very clearly, as if someone was standing right beside
And when I looked to my right at this long counter, there standing
at the counter was one of these beings: Blond hair, blue eyes.
Theyíre probably about, I donít know, 6í4Ē, built as if they were,
you know, had been working out for their entire lives - just
really, really strong looking.
And he stared at me and said: What are you doing here?
And I again said: Well, Iím coming home. What are you doing here?
You know... Why are you asking me? type of thing.
And there was no conversation with him, but I knew who he was,
And I wanted to walk up to him and say: Oh, what are you
doing here? Letís sit down and talk. But again I just kept walking
with this little girl, thinking: No. Itís not the right time.
I was walking out of this area and I said to the little girl:
you see that man in there?
[She said]: Yeah.
I said: Did you recognize him?
She said: No, Iíve never seen him before.
And I said: Okay.
So I thought: Wow. That is so strange.
Thereís something about that that Iíd like to share thatís not in
the book, which is fascinating, that has to do with this.
But to continue, I went back to this elderís home. And when I did, I
said to him: This is what happened when I was with the little girl.
I heard this word being said as one of these words that these beings
spoke to me in.
So there I was, sitting at this elderís table, and out of my back
pocket I pulled out a piece of paper and I opened it up. And I said:
This is the language that they spoke to me in. And I pushed the
piece of paper over to him. So he tried to...
I said: Theyíre all phonetically written because I didnít know how
to write this.
And he said: Well, why donít you just tell me what the words are?
So I read them out. And as I did, at least 6 of the words on the
piece of paper were Hopi. One for sure, I know for sure, is Navajo.
And he told me that other words that were on this piece of paper
that he thought were Navajo words.
So these beings... In 1988, when Iíd never had any exposure to Hopis
or Navajos in any way, shape, or form, as a 22-year-old young girl
living a very normal life, these beings spoke to me in a language
that I knew for twenty years at this point today. I knew all that
time that one day I would find the people whose language this
belonged to. I just didnít expect them to be Hopis.
I always thought
that Iíd find them in the jungles of South America or something.
So, this being that I saw in the mesa... What happened after that
trip in 2004 when I returned home was, I went for dinner with a
friend of mine, and I was telling him all about my journey and that
type of thing. We took a drive in his car. Him and his wife were in
the front seat. And in the back seat I was sitting behind the
driver, and his nine-year-daughter was to the right of me.
So, as weíre driving down a very busy street in Vancouver, very busy
street, one of the major streets, a Jeep rolls up beside the car.
And as it does, I looked, and there sitting in the car was this
blond being, blond-haired, blue-eyed being, that was sitting and
completely... head cocked to the one side and looking at me
directly, without looking at the road at all. Didnít look at the
road at all. Just sat there and... with his head... just stared at
me. And I thought: No way. Thatís all I could think.
But hereís the great thing.
The little girl said: Oh my god. Look at
that man. He looks so weird. He doesnít even look human. [laughs]
M: Everyone in the car just sat back and thought... you know, was
quickly trying to get a glimpse of this man. And so, then again,
there I was having confirmation by another individual of all of
And during a two-week period after I returned from that trip, I had
three encounters like that: one in a store, one on the public
transit bus, and then the one in the car with my friends. Very
strange. Very, very strange.
Even to me itís fascinating.
K: Okay. Maybe we could just kind of move ahead now to a little more
current and what youíve been hearing, and maybe share a little bit
about the fact that youíve... how youíve began to come forward. And
especially how you got to write your book.
Because I have to say that I came across you via... I think I heard
you on a radio show briefly, and then I saw your site. I saw your
face, and I knew instantly that we should talk. And it was a drawing
of your face; it wasnít actually you. But I just had a connection,
and I just knew. But the book... then I got the book and that just
confirmed what Iíd thought.
So can you tell me about the writing of
M: Big question. Very important question. And especially relevant
The whole purpose behind writing this book was... First of all, it
was a request made by them. So in 1988 when I was onboard that
craft, I was actually asked by them to do this. They asked me to
come forward and share this story, to tell people who they were and
where they were from, so that if and when the time came that... if
they had to make their presence known on a global scale... that we
would not be afraid.
So this was very important to them. This was the whole purpose for
them sharing the knowledge that they did with me and helping me to
try to understand the Earth, to understand ourselves, and to
The reason that it was written at this time was... I have to give
you a bit of a timeline. In 1988 I had what I call my awakening
encounter, and that is the point where everything sort of stems
from. I always revert back to 1988 when Iím describing to people
what has happened.
So Iím told in 1988 all of these things and asked to share them. So
I started doing some of these things that theyíd asked of me. And
then all of a sudden they said:
No, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Quiet, quiet, quiet. No more talking.
And I knew that eventually one day I would be told when the right
time was to come forward and start sharing this. So, at the very beginning of 2003, I was sort of woke up one
Okay, itís time. Itís time. Itís time to go to
the Four Corners area - whatever that meant, I was not sure.
was time for me to... what I would say, for lack of a better term,
to start my work. So that happened in 2003. And after that, of
course, encounter with the Hopi elder, and as well as a number of
other things that happened prior to that in the Four Corners area
that were related to 1988, I said: Okay. I must start writing.
the process began.
Then in 2007, near the beginning of the year, I had quite a few
messages given to me in many different forms. They came to me in
dreams. They came to me, you know, in my head saying:
You need to
finish the book, you need to finish the book, you need to finish the
And they told me that it was very important that I had it done by
November. And I really didnít know why. But they said November,
2007, I had to have the book done by, because there was a timeline
of what was going to be taking place on the planet.
So I pushed and pushed and pushed myself in many ways to be able to
have this task completed, which, just under the wire, I have done.
So the book was done. I finished writing it. And then I was told to
begin sharing this story with whomever would listen.
Now, I was told in 1988 that I was to find the others like myself,
and that we were to come together and that these gatherings would
Now, theyíve given me information. And that, again, starts to step
into what I believe has to do with the indigenous people of the
Earth because of what these beings told me. And they said that in
the ďEnd TimesĒ that there would be many changes that would take
place. So... Theyíre on many different levels. Theyíre not just one.
And itís not simple to describe these things.
I was told that one of them would be on a spiritual level, changes
would begin to take place. On a physical level changes would begin.
And also on an Earth basis, for the Earth itself, that changes would
So all of these things were sort of being correlated and being
written by humanity itself in the path that we are to take. For
example, that there were the possibility that war would break out,
for example. This is something that really disturbs me. It scares
me. It upsets me. And even as I say this I could cry because...
I might just cry. [voice breaks, choked up]
K: Itís okay. Go ahead.
M: Because if anyone were to have lived the life that I have for the
past twenty years, to have had the experience after experience after
experience, confirmation after confirmation after confirmation, of
all of these things, they too would not hesitate in anything, to
help in whatever way they could to stop this process.
Because we have a responsibility... as human beings. I was told that
we have a responsibility to do what we can to save this Earth. Weíre
not the saviors of the Earth. Weíre supposed to be the caretakers of
the Earth. Weíre here to be the stewards of this land. That is part
of why we are here, to be able to experience one another and the
But the way that we are living our lives, based in things like greed
as being the primary focus for most people, weíve forgotten about
why it is that we are supposed to be here to begin with. And that is
the beauty of each other and of this land.
And one of the things that I always ask people, every single person,
and I say to them:
You really need to ask yourself this question.
Are you happy? Itís a very simple question. The answer is what gets
Because, as it was explained to me by these beings, humanity was on
a path, a collision course, and if we didnít change it, this was
going to be the end result: Destruction.
In whatever form... whether it was going to be a meteor hitting the
Earth, or whether it was going to be war breaking out, or whether it
was going to be famine, or there was going to be Earth changes that
took place - any of these things - that man had the ability to
change this timeline of what is was that was going to be coming.
Now people have said to me:
Well, youíre trying to create a
prophecy, or youíre talking about prophecy.
But hereís the thing. For anyone out there that understands even
remotely the smallest amount of this, this is easy to understand,
what it is thatís happened here. Weíve been given a gift, a very
special gift. And that is the gift of seeing beyond where we
Now, if we stay on the same path, theyíve said this is going to be
the end result. But the gift is, if we can change the course that we
have been on, then all of these things will be averted, and they
will not happen.
So this is the reason for the book. This is the reason that Iíve
come forward. Because I donít want to be talking to you. I really
donít. I wish I could put on a mask and not be here. But I am,
because in my heart, in my mind, in my entire being, I know that we
are on a path that is frightening.
And some people get scared. Iím not scared. These tears are not
fear. These tears are very much sadness, because I have seen the
future through them, with their assistance. So I hope that we will
be able to come together as humanity to change that. And I
believe... I believe that we still can.
I donít think that itís possible at this point in time to stop
everything. I think that we have come to a time where it has become
apparent, and is becoming more apparent every day, that we are on a
collision course in many different areas.
Our food supplies have in the course of the last year become scarce
in certain areas in the world. Things like Rice, Mad Cow Disease,
the Avian Flu. The list goes on. These things are all becoming
apparent to everyone in the world. Fuel - the cost of fuel, gas
prices affecting everyone in the world.
But all of these things
can be changed very easily. And that is how
we are going to change the Earth - with helping one another.
K: Okay. So you have a mission and youíre on your mission and here
we are. This is October. Actually not October. This is September of
2008. Right? And itís a beautiful world outside my door today.
However, there are a lot of things going on right now as we speak.
The American economy is going in the tank. There is possible war
with Iran right, you know, behind our backs could be happening,
could be gearing up. And there are other things as well.
So how is
this impacting your sense of what youíre doing, what your, sort of,
your set mission, and what the next milestones are, if you will,
that you are planning to get to?
M: Considering that this is 2008, thatís a very interesting question
for me, because it has been... I donít even know how many years, and
I donít even know if it relates back to 1988... but at some point in
this course of my life in the last twenty years, 2008 has been a
year that has stuck with me.
Because I have known for years that between August of 2008 and
November 2008 that there would be major changes on the Earth. And
what I mean is... Iím not talking about changes of the Earth itself,
but of the people. And maybe in some form it would have something to
do with the United States.
Now, I made this very public statement in January of this year. I
said that these things were coming and that they would involve the
United States. And what the United States did, and what happened
here, would affect the entire world forever.
So, considering that
the American economy is doing as it is, and the
price of oil that does have to do with the United States in part,
there are... we are at the beginning of a flow that is not going to
be easily rectified, if at all.
So what people need to understand is that these things were told to
me years and years and years ago. And so what Iím saying is that
2008, thereís going to be economic repercussions across the Earth
that are never going to be fully recovered. So thatís the first
Iíve also seen that there are the possibilities of changes taking
place on a global scale of things that are more geared towards the
political structure of the Earth, in the next... probably 4 to 6
months... that there were going to be some changes that were going
to be taking place around this time.
So that finishes off 2008. Itís
like a precursor to whatís to come.
Now, the other year that Iím concerned with, and Iíve had great
concern over since 1988, is not
2012 as people have often asked me.
2012, to myself, in the knowledge that Iíve been given by these
beings, is not a specific date for me to be even thinking about.
However, the year 2010 is. So what is coming in 2010?
asked this. And all I know is that there is the potential of great
destruction all over the Earth. Can I say that thatís war? No. I
will not say that. Can I say that it is a meteor coming? I cannot
say that. What I am saying is that humanity has a role to play in
how this turns out in 2010.
So letís say that 2010 rolls around and nothing happens. You know
what? I am not going to sit here and say: Oh I was wrong. I am going
to be clapping in glee that we have averted what it is that I have
seen for all this time.
So it is never too late. The eleventh hour is going to be the
eleventh hour until the moment that it happens. So we always have
time. We always have the ability to change something.
And I believe that... From all of this knowledge that Iíve learned,
and all of these things that have been shown to me, I know that we
have the ability to work together to make changes on the Earth that
are going to be lasting, that will bring back the happiness and joy
that we came here to be able to experience, that weíll put a
structure in place for our families and our communities that is
geared towards caring for one another and for the Earth itself.
And this particular time that weíre in right now, it is critical
that we begin to understand that we need to take responsibility on
an individual basis, that we as individuals do have the power to
change the Earth in a way that is going to be beneficial to our
children, in a way that is going to be beneficial to the people that
are coming after us.
And people ask me:
Why is it and what is it that makes this time
And it is because we are being given the choice, the choice
of how our path is going to lead us and take us, and where the end
is going to be.
If we decide that we are going to continue to be greed-filled...
Look into the future! It doesnít take much. You can see that thereís
no real way out of this situation that weíre in unless we make some
changes. So how do we do that? How do we make changes?
And I tell people
- very important. People that come here to
Project Camelot. Itís a prime example. Itís called education. The
most important thing that individuals can do is educate
And I am not talking just about political issues, or issues that
have to do with extraterrestrials, but Iím talking about educate
yourself as to who you are as a person. Educate yourself as to how
to live, how to build a home, how to grow food. Put your hands in
the Earth again so that you remember who you are, so that you
remember where your food came from. Thatís education.
Itís talking about educating yourself in all the areas that you need
- spiritually, emotionally, physically. Look at how youíre living
the choices that youíre making. No one, including myself, are
perfect. No oneís perfect.
But what we can do is, when we are able
to, we can make the right choices so that slowly we can make a world
that is on the right path.
K: Okay. So you come here, though, to Hopiland and Sedona and the
Four Corners. And the mission is to gather the people, as I
K: And this is not just the Native American people. And can you talk
about that a little?
M: I am going to share with you a little bit of what was told to me
twenty years ago. When I was onboard the craft, what I was told was
to find the others like myself, to gather them together and bring
them back to the safe lands; that a time would come when all of
these people - meaning the people that I saw living from the...
taken from the Third World into the Fourth World, and as well as the
others ďlike myselfĒ - that we would all come back together. And
when this happened, there would be great changes that would take
place on the Earth, for the better.
So it is becoming clearer and clearer to me by the day now... See,
it used to take years for things to come. And thatís no longer the
case. And thatís a very key point, because people have noticed that
the world, and the daily lives that they have, everythingís changing
- the way that we think, the way that we act. Some people just seem
to be floating through life while other people are just sort of
going crazy, and they canít seem to hold their own selves and their
Whatís happening now is that this gathering that I was told about 20
years ago is beginning to form. And the people like myself are...
There are people all over the Earth that have had experiences
similar to mine. And we are all waiting for the right time to stand
up in unity - in Unity - and come forward and speak to the world.
Because when the world realizes that we are here, and that we are
strong, and that we have been working in our own individual ways to
better the Earth, and to better our societies, I believe that they
will not have a choice but to look around and say: Okay, what do we
need to do?
Because we arenít crazy people. People like myself are living very
And as I state in the book, we could be your best
friend or your neighbor. We could be the principal at the school. We
could be your governor, or anything in life. You could even be
married to somebody like me and you may not know. But when the time
comes, all of us will stand up together, and come out of these
closets that weíve been living in, to make our presence known on a
So when people talk about this time, where theyíre constantly asking
me: Are these beings going to show themselves to us? Are they going
to come out on a global scale? I tell them that it is my
understanding that these tall blond beings are here as the
Caretakers of this Earth and that they will not show themselves on a
global scale en mass unless it is absolutely necessary to do so Ė
meaning, if there was some great cataclysm that was coming where the
entire world would be wiped out, that they would then step in. But
it is only then that they would do so.
Now, we - people like myself
- are the ones that could come out on
a global basis and a global scale. And this is one of the questions
Iíve been asked so many times, and this is a really important point
for people to understand: That when they say theyíre going to come
out, well yeah, weíre going to come out. Weíre going to come out of
your homes, and out of your schools, and out of your political
arenas, and out of your preschools as your teachers.
weíre going to come out first.
K: And doesnít it also... Thereís a really key ingredient which
involves the children and that the gatherings are actually going to
send sort of a wave across the planet thatís going to impact and
stimulate all of
the Indigo Children and all of the Crystal Children - whatever you want to call them
- and they will suddenly know
that the time is now because of this gathering, if I understand it.
M: You do understand it very well. And it is important to note that,
also when these gatherings take place, and they have been... You
know, one can say that these gatherings have been taking place all
over the Earth already in small forms.
What the great gathering is, is certain individuals, certain groups,
coming together of prominence and of Ė ďprominenceĒ meaning nothing
more than having certain knowledge. So people all over the Earth
with certain knowledge will come together, and when they stand
together, they will say certain things. And what itís going to do
is, itís going to send a message out to individuals, children, to
young adults, to you know, those people that are 70 years old.
But it will send a message to everyone thatís waiting, waiting. We
all feel it. Everyoneís felt it for a very long time. What are we
waiting for? Itís like sitting in a chair getting all jittery. What
are we waiting for? Weíre waiting for something.
One of the things that theyíre waiting for is for this event to take
place. Thatís what I believe because thatís what I was told 20 years
ago, that it would be a wave that would sort of go out to these
individuals and almost send a message to them and say: Okay. Youíre
not alone. Letís wake up together and letís start standing up and be
known en mass to the Earth. Because then there will be
responsibility taken by individuals.
But it will also mean that those people that are living in their
homes in fear of coming out, that as we come out together, we will
no longer be ridiculed by people but we will be... we will have
individuals saying: Okay. Teach me a little bit more about this path
that you are on.
Because thereís more than one side to this phenomenon. And Iím not
here to talk to people or educate them about the darker side. What
Iím saying is that this knowledge, this path, this understanding
that I have from these tall blonds, is truly about enlightening
ourselves, to educating ourselves, to helping us to understand who
we are and where weíre from. And there is no hidden agenda.
We may not have all of the answers. I may not have all of the
answers. But if you put me in a room with a number of other people,
we do have the whole picture. So to say that thereís other things
going on is not a fair assessment, in my view.
So itís important for all of us to come together to the Earth en
mass and that will be happening, I hope very soon.
K: [to Bill Ryan] Okay. Now we have time for you to ask your
question and then we can also double back and cover some ground that
we might have missed along the way. Okay?
Bill Ryan: I have a question which many people who are watching this
would probably want me to ask.
And that is that, when you talk about
the Four Worlds that were mentioned both by your extraterrestrials
contacts and that are present in the Hopi legend in the same form,
Can you match that against the traditional scientific thinking in
terms of the fossil record, the evolution of man?
Can you put any
kind of a date on this?
What does this actually mean to a
paleontologist or an anthropologist?
Are you able to answer that
question or is it just not known?
M: That is an interesting question to me because... The way that I
can explain this is that when I was onboard the craft I was given
knowledge. It was like saying that I had an education in many areas.
Okay? One of the areas was on the evolution of man and where we came
from, where weíre going. So in this, it was as though I went to,
letís say, grade three or grade four.
So I have only a little bit of
knowledge about these different Worlds. I am not the expert. But I
know that thereís others like myself out there who would have far
greater in-depth knowledge concerning this question.
What became very clear to me in the visions that I was shown on the
screen was that, for example, in the beginning, they said that it
was like they threw the seeds of life across the land and waited for
life to form and nothing happened. So we were just, you know, like
worms in mud.
This is the image that came into my mind.
B: So thatís billions of years ago.
M: Yes. Yes. In the Second World I was shown, in the Second World,
that this very grotesque life form was produced and that they waited
for it to evolve to see if it would be the right host for this spark
of life - whatever you would like to call it; I call it the spark
of life - to be able to facilitate a spiritual life and a greater
understanding of the universe.
But this... in the Second World, the life that was formed was very,
very... ĒsimpleĒ is the word that came to me. Very simple and basic
and just really did not evolve. So, for myself, when I look at
that... Of course, when I came back from this experience, and it
took me a while to even be able to put all of this, associate it to
the world, I clearly was able to see that this was the Dinosaurs Age.
Then in the Third World, I was shown from above the Earth and then
again into this room where these people were that were taken from
the Third World and brought into this World. And when I was shown
from above, what I saw was this city that was very, very much filled
with light. So there were cities but they werenít all over the
Earth. They were just sort of in pockets here and there.
And so when I myself, as Miriam, look back through history at this,
I see it as being some of those ďLost WorldsĒ that have been looked
for, and some of them, part of them, found over the course of our
lifetimes, or over the last hundred years.
So, these three Worlds that were talked about prior to this one...
it makes very clear sense to me, in my limited knowledge of
anthropology and paleontology and all of the rest of it.
looks clear to me that these were the different Worlds.
B: Okay. My next question then that comes from that is that it
sounds from what youíre saying that you are talking time scale of
the responsibility of the Caretakers. I think you call them that
word. Other contactees of course have called them different terms.
Some people call them ďThe Watchers.Ē Jim Sparks called them ďThe
These are all approximations, presumably transposed into
our language, for some kind of guardian race. Maybe thatís another
term we could use. But the time scale theyíre talking about seems to be huge.
talking about, certainly hundreds of millions of years and possibly
How advanced are these people?
Where are they from?
Or arenít they extraterrestrials?
Are they time travelers?
Are they us in some way, as some people in my view compellingly
Do you know what the score is here?
And whatís the
relationship between them and the other extraterrestrial races that
you must have heard about?
M: Yes. First of all Iíd like to address the different names: The
Keepers, The Watchers, The Caretakers.
I call them all of these
things, myself, and the reason that I do is in part because they are
all of these things. They do watch over us; they do take care of us;
they are our caretakers; and they keep the knowledge. In my book I
write they are the Keepers of the Knowledge that the indigenous
people are. They too are the Keepers of the Knowledge, and so forth.
So all of these terms, these different terms that we use to describe
them, are correct in my view.
The other question was what kind of a scale are we looking at as far
as time is concerned?
Now, it is my understanding again, from what
theyíve shared with me onboard that craft, that they have been here
since the beginning of the Earth. And that they had a hand in
creating humanity. That they, too, as it was described to me by
them, that they too seek to know ďGodĒ - meaning the creator of all
that is, all that was, and all that will be, the creator of
everything, the very beginning, the source of all things.
So they were given a task. Itís like saying, you know, whatever your
job is. When you get up in the morning and you go to work, thatís
what your job is. Thatís what you know that you do. Well, when we
are here on Earth, it is no different for them than to say that this
is what they do. They are the Caretakers of the Earth and this is
what theyíve always done.
As far as what timeline theyíre from, it was also described to me
that some of them are from our past, our present, and our future,
because the way that time was described to me, they did have the
ability to go back and forth and in the present. They did have that
ability. How? Youíd have to ask them that because I have no idea.
But they also said that some of them were physical, that they were
no different than you or I. That they lived on the Earth. That they
did live under the Earth,
inside the Earth. That there were others
that were inter-dimensional beings, and there were others on
different planets. That all of them were created for the same task
in these different areas, and they all had the ability to
communicate with one another. And it was like saying that they were
So, itís a very complicated question to answer because it is so
complicated to explain.
Itís almost beyond my words to be able to
B: Our contact
Henry Deacon, who has encountered these situations
from a completely different standpoint, working under contract for
the American military and the American Intelligence services, has
said that it would take a book of at least a thousand pages, and he
just did not have the energy to write that. [laughs] Or maybe he
said ten thousand. Maybe heís not counting.
And the impression I got is that this whole back-story is so
complex, so deep, so convoluted, almost beyond human understanding,
such a backdrop of complexity, that itís like who are we to try and
figure this out? Weíve actually got our own problems. Anything else
is just intellectual curiosity. But the fact is that theyíre there.
At least some of them are caring about us, it would seem.
The question I do have, though, linked with what I was just
mentioning about the American military and the American Intelligence
services. Do you know anything about the possible relationships of
this group with the military? Or is it a different group of aliens
that they have been working with?
Do you know anything about that,
or is that a question you are unable to answer?
M: The question is: Will I answer? I have not been told anything
directly by these beings as to any relationship that was formed with
any government or any group on the Earth. So let me make that clear.
I have not been given any direct information regarding that. They
havenít said: Yes we work with these people; weíre working over here
with that person.
However, I have been shown and told certain things that were of a
darker side, and warned of certain things. For example, at one point
I was shown something... Itís difficult, difficult for me to talk
about. I was shown an image of being in an underground base (Dulce???)
What took place there was so dark and ugly and horrifying to me that
it was difficult for me to deal with.
I donít know how to say this nicely, but it was of... I saw images
of beings and of creatures that were just beyond the human
comprehension of being able to see in real life. Now what
In this time that I was shown this, I was in
and the being, the tall blond that I was with, said:
You must be
very quiet because if youíre not, they will know that we are here.
And donít ever come to this particular area. It is very dangerous
And I said: Okey doke. Iím not going anywhere near there.
So do these tall blonds have associations with certain groups on the
planet? No, not that Iím aware of.
You asked me about these other beings that so many people are
familiar with, which... one of the biggest ones is
the Grays. I do
not have any direct information, but hereís what I was told by the
tall blonds: That they are here as the Caretakers of the Earth and
that they would help protect us from ourselves or other things that
we may not be aware of.
So does that mean other beings? Absolutely.
Does it mean that
thereís a presence of other beings on the planet? Absolutely.
here to talk about those beings with you? No. Because I want the
the tall blonds to be really clear with people, that they
are here in peace and that they do not mean us any harm.
They will not come here and take over the Earth. That is not their
purpose. If it was their purpose, they would have done it long, long
ago. And they do not have a dark agenda in this genetic program that
they have going. And I want to talk about that because itís
something thatís very important to the people of Earth.
In the Third World, these individuals that were created were created
for the purpose of spiritual development. And when the spiritual
development was taking place, all of this knowledge about spirit and
life was a part of who we are, where weíre from, and where weíre
going. But again, to reiterate what Iíve already said, it was like
giving children matches. They just didnít deal with it very well.
what has happened since the beginning of our existence as humanity
is that different families all over the Earth have been given this
certain genetic information in our genome. Right?
And along the way, certain families are ďmonitoredĒ by these
Caretakers, not to do anything dark, but to help so that, so very
slowly, these vessels that we are living in, that we are a part of,
have the ability to withstand this greater information and
knowledge. Because, of course, our brain is nothing more than a
computer that is based on an electrical charge within the body. So
if we are over-loaded with electrical charges, we will not be able
to control the pathways in which this information is flowing, and we
So these families have very slowly had their DNA, new strands of
DNA, to help facilitate greater understanding, greater knowledge,
greater respect for ourselves and the Earth. And thatís whatís
happened with these families that are being monitored. So that is
also why sometimes people have had these things running in their
families, because theyíre one of these families that have been
And thatís why the path leading back to where we all came
from would be very interesting, to be able to look at the family
tree of some of these families through time.
K: Isnít this the... This is actually... The Grays are in a sense
working for... At least one faction are working for the tall blonds,
or however you want to call them, because youíre talking about also
in your Ď88 experience, you have the four-foot-tall beings. Those
were, I assume, the Grays showing you onto the ship, at which time
you were meeting with the tall blonds.
So what happens is, the Grays
are actually handling the genetic, sort of, manipulation under the
direction of perhaps these higher beings.
M: Only to a certain degree. And there needs to be some
clarification there - and this is one of the things that I, myself,
have been very frustrated with in regard to the whole phenomenon -
is the terms that we use in order to describe what it is that weíre
For example, when I myself say the word
first thing that pops into my mind is a being that has wrinkled
skin, has just the whole energy of fear for me personally. They
have... Their heads are larger, but theyíre not huge. Their eyes are
slightly slanted. That sort of thing.
When Iím talking about
the Grays that Iím talking about, if you
wanted to call them that, these are four feet high with round black
eyes and almost look like robots. Thereís no features to them
whatsoever. Theyíre very androgynous. These other Grays with the
wrinkled skin and their little tiny noses, those are a completely
different breed. So there needs to be clarification in that.
Hereís what I tell people also. There is something that needs to be
said about the understanding of people out there when someone such
as myself comes forward. When we talk to you about our experiences,
we talk to you about them not only from what it is that weíve
experienced but also from our perceptions, understanding, and how
much we were taught by them.
So this is very important, because if five people witness a car
accident, all five people are going to tell a slightly different
story. So the question is: Is the person telling the story a
story-maker? Are they somebody that, you know, embellishes? You have
to take that into account. Is the person a very fastidious
story-teller, where theyíre telling every detail? You know, you have
to take a look at the individual also to be able to know how to take
So, when it comes to these beings, Iíve also been told by certain
individuals that these ďGraysĒ have been seen with the tall blonds
and that their agenda is very dark. But hereís what I say. And,
again, this really needs to be having some clarification out there
regarding this phenomenon. I pray that if there are these beings...
I would ask these people watching to ask themselves this.
I pray that if there are
Caretakers that are looking over us and
watching over us, and if they are somehow related to god in any way,
shape, or form, that they not judge me on the evil people of this
Earth - because we all look the same. Our general descriptions are
the same. So because I am white, I pray that I am not judged by the
evil of other white people.
So when you come across one of these beings, whether it is in your
dreams, which they can come to you in, or whether it is in the
astral, which means your light body is leaving you, or whether it is
physical, ask yourself this, right from here: [points to her
heart] Do I have fear or am I simply just afraid? Do I have fear or
Because if you have terror, you need to understand that, and
you need to say:
No, I am not going to do this. I am not going to
participate. I do not and will not be a part of this.
K: Right. They need to protect themselves. And they have this power.
K: And they need to know they have this power.
K: And thatís a very important message.
M: Yes. It is very important. People forget that. They think: Oh I
donít have any control. I donít have any power. You do have a
certain amount of power regarding this phenomenon when youíre having
contact. And so it is really important to protect yourself in that
And thatís why, again, these tall blonds make it very clear that we
need to educate ourselves, not only in whatís happening around us in
the world, but also on a more spiritual level, because the more
spiritually aware you become, the stronger you become, the more
informed as to how it is that you can move forward spiritually and
in the astral and in the dreams, to be able to protect yourself from
some of these other beings.
All of them. All of the beings that are out there, whether it be
Grays or tall blonds, each one that I meet individually, I make them
look at me in my eyes. I make them look, so that... If theyíre
looking at me and theyíre looking all over the place like this
[moves head sporadically from side to side], I say: No, no, no.
I remember one dream in particular, the two blonds came to me and
they were trying to give me this very, very strong message.
said to them: You need to look at me.
And they said: Thereís no time. Thereís no time.
And I said: No. You either stop and look at me so that I can look in
your eyes or Iím not speaking to you.
So I looked in their eyes and I recognized them as being peaceful
and from the right heart.
Because you canít look at someone, at the
rest of their body. When we want to know who someone is, even in
this world, we stop and we look at their eyes: Can I look at their
eyes and be comfortable?
We have instant recognition as to whether or not we care for someone
or not, so use that in this phenomenon as well. And if you do not
want this happening, tell them. And just keep telling them that you
do not and are not a willing participant, and you demand that they
stop. You need to verbalize that.
Will it stop? I donít know.
depends on your spirit. It depends on how strong you are.
K: Okay. Thank you very much for that. Thatís very important and Iím
glad we can put that out there.
M: What I would like to share with everyone is that people like
myself all over the Earth are being stirred to movement. And that
stirring and that movement, I believe, is very relevant for every
single human being on the Earth. I believe that because we are being
awakened to begin sharing this information with people, that there
are great changes that are coming and that we need to all understand
What is this great knowledge? The knowledge is that weíre not alone,
that weíre being watched, that what weíre doing is being looked upon
by other beings that do have a certain amount of knowledge that we
ourselves do not have. And that we need to take responsibility for
ourselves - only as the individual.
Youíre not responsible for the Earth. Youíre responsible for
yourself. Accept that. Because we are all being awakened, we are all
making the connections with one another. Where this will all lead, I
believe that all of us are waiting to see. Because nothing is for
sure. Weíre writing this plan as weíre going through it.
One of the greatest concerns that I have... In the views, the
visions that I was shown, the information that was shared to me
onboard that craft, they talked to me a lot when I was with them
about seeds. And Iím always trying to share this information with
people. One of the things that could save this Earth is seeds.
because if every individual on the planet planted a small garden, we
would not have to produce as much oil or transportation or pollution
or plastics to... you know. Everything.
It would also give every individual on the planet a taste again, a
glimpse of why weíre here, to be able to experience the beauty
Now, Iím going to ask everyone to take away from this whole
interview today... If they educate themselves on any one thing, Iím
going to ask them to educate themselves on what is happening to the
Earthís seeds. Because it is of great concern to these tall blonds
and always has been, and even for myself, what I have learned in the
last few years regarding seeds and whatís happening on the Earth. It
is the greatest concern that every individual should have.
If you accept that weíre not alone, thatís great. But educate
yourself on seeds because it will change your view of the world and
it will change the course of this Earth for the better.
K: Wonderful. Okay. Thatís a very different take than you generally
hear, and I think thereís a lot of wisdom there in that approach.
You donít even need free energy if you just plant a garden, right?
K: Yeah. Itís a great idea.
M: I wanted to share something else. You asked me a question. You
asked me a question regarding something that was given to me, and I
know that anyone watching this is going to be going back to that...
M: ...because itís very important. When I was onboard the craft in
1988, I had memories come back to me from childhood that were very
interesting because it was of a time when I was a very young child,
about four or five years old, when I was taken onboard a craft. And
this memory came back to me very, very clearly. I really get into
the details of this in the book because it is a key point to this
phenomenon for myself.
Now, to take this story and put it into a few sentences: I was taken
on board a craft when I was four years old, and during that time,
these beings gave me something and they told me to bury it. And they
said that one day I would know what it was for and that I would go
back and find it.
I get asked this all the time because Iíve written about it in great
detail throughout the course of my life. This thing keeps coming up
over and over and over again. I have not found it yet. I know the
area that it is in but I have not found it yet.
The question again is: Is it my imagination? Absolutely not. Because
I have had far too many confirmations of this information given to
me over the years, one in particular coming back to me thirty-five
years after the fact - or sorry, thirty-six years after the fact -
and a very clear, clear indication that these memories that came
back were absolutely crystal clear.
So, is it there? I believe it is. Have I found it? No, I havenít.
Will I let you know if I have? I think the world will know if I
The path that Iíve been on for the last few years of my life, since
2003, has in a very round-about way been my driving force. And this
object is constantly in my mind. And what Iíve noticed is, since
2003 to the present day, the images of it have become clearer and
clearer and clearer. So does that mean itís coming back to me? Does
that mean itís physically coming back to me? I believe it is.
So I think weíre all, including myself, because I live this life,
because it is so profound every day even for me, and because of the
things that Iíve experienced in the past. I am no different than
anyone else out there.
Iím waiting to see what happens next.
K: Well, thank you very much, Miriam. I call you
Miriam Blue Star.
And thereís a significance to the Blue Star that you havenít
mentioned. Would you like to talk about that briefly?
The Blue Star is the prophecy of the Hopi people. And again
I do not speak on behalf of Hopi. However, when I was on the craft
in 1988, they told me that one day a star would appear in the sky
for all of man to see. Nothing or no one would hide its presence
from the world and it would be a sign to the people that the end is
near and that it is time to prepare.
In 2003, when I went through Hopi and I went back home, I then went
online and I started looking up the Hopi, trying to gather
information about them. And it was then that I found the Hopi
prophecy, which is identical as well as the creation myth, to the
information that was given to me regarding the Hopi people.
So the Blue Star is a prophecy of the Hopi people, and I was told
that the star would appear exactly the same as the Hopi. So what I
would ask is that you do your own research regarding these people
and all the indigenous people around the world.
It will give you
great insight and spiritual understanding.
K: But there was a blue star in the sky not so long ago. We were
driving through New Mexico at the time and people were commenting on
it. You donít actually know if that was the Blue Star? Is that
M: Because the Blue Star is a prophecy of the Hopi people, I cannot
say for sure whether or not that was the Blue Star. But that was a
comet that blew up. It was... Itís called
17P/Holmes. If you wanted
to look it up, it will give you more information. And this was a
comet that astounded researchers and astronomers because of what
happened as a result of it. It blew up and it was showing blue in
the sky all over the Earth.
It was very, very clear at that time.